Supreme Court Decision Will Not Alter Doctrine on Marriage[LDS - Mormon]

http://www.mormonnewsroom.org/article/supreme-court-decision-will-not-alter-doctrine-on-marriage ^ | 26 JUNE 2015 | The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints

[StormPrepper]

SALT LAKE CITY —

The Church issued the following statement Friday:

"The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints acknowledges that following today's ruling by the Supreme Court, same-sex marriages are now legal in the United States. The Court's decision does not alter the Lord's doctrine that marriage is a union between a man and a woman ordained by God. While showing respect for those who think differently, the Church will continue to teach and promote marriage between a man and a woman as a central part of our doctrine and practice."

[ansel12]

Yeah something is wrong with you, and you aren’t a Christian, and you are not a Baptist.

[CommerceComet]

Joseph Smith prophesied this was going to happen. We've always known it. To be more specific, we've been waiting on it to happen.

Where exactly is this prophesy?

Did the prophet not say that in the last days those that don't take the mark of the beast won't be able to buy or sell? The Lord takes care of His own. You can't buy or sell, unless you grow the food and own the store where it's sold. Oh the wisdom of God is so humbling.

What's to stop the lawless one from just seizing the property and goods? Governments far less evil than the one prophesied to be controlled by the Beast think nothing of taking property if it suits their purposes. The ability to resist will be somewhat limited since he'll control the military, too.

If you'll notice the doctrine hasn't changed. Homosexuality is still a grievous sin before God. Just like all other sexual immorality and can lead to excommunication.

As I pointed out earlier, your church has already backed down on one of its sacred principles of marriage. The doctrine in that case most certainly changed.

[ansel12]

laotzu has been posting such bizarre, irrelevant, nasty, anti-Christian, anti-Baptist, posts to the thread, and now I know why, it was my tagline.

laotzu isn’t a Christian at all, he is a libertarian.

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“”Liberaltarians’! Har!! I see what you did there. You made fun of their name. Too funny!! Can I steal that?
Speaking as a libertarian, I am generally in favor of 18 year old, lingerie clad females.
I am sure that a Republican’s favor is quite different.””

83 posted on 1/8/2015, 8:58:44 AM by laotzu

[laotzu]

because your posts are not making any sense..I have to assume that you have some mental issues

I don't doubt it. Limited wit leaves only assumptions.

[laotzu]

you aren’t a Christian..you are not a Baptist..Mormons are not Christian

ansel12 ‘the Rev’ Sharpton says Mormons are not Christian.
-Sycophants and devout holier-than-thou judges agree.-

[ansel12]

So libertarianism is pro-abortion, and Mormon church leaders can be pro-abortion.

Libertarians are for the homosexual agenda, and Bishop Mitt Romney was as well.

How about child porn, what is the libertarian position on that?

[ansel12]

I did ask you, are you reading my posts?

You said that you refused to read the Baptist statement on Mormonism not being Christian, are you reading anything?

Look at it again.

So libertarianism is pro-abortion, and Mormon church leaders can be pro-abortion.

Libertarians are for the homosexual agenda, and Bishop Mitt Romney was as well.

How about child porn, what is the libertarian position on that?

[StormPrepper]

They sure reversed themselves on polygamy, at least for the living.

Not really. The restored gospel had to restore all the higher doctrines of God. Polygamy accomplished that task. However, it was not necessary to continue it's practice.

However, it was totally unconstitutional for the US to create laws curtailing religious practices based on the prevailing religious views at that time. In other words, protestants decided polygamy was a sin, therefore they created secular laws to stop what they considered sin.

Mormon teachings change to suit whatever is good for the corporation,

The teachings don't change. Policy and practice may change, but that's not doctrine. Your animosity has always reeked of a mixture of sour grapes and pettiness.

I think that we can expect for them to approve of polygamy again, when the time is right.

Isaiah prophesied that in the millennium after Christ's second coming there would be polygamy. So you're probably right.

As far as Mormons being able to have private thoughts, they can’t and be Temple Mormons.

That's ridiculous. Prove it.

Harry Reid, he pays, he keeps temple status.

I don't know if Harry Reid meets the earthly requirement to enter the Temple or not. It's none of my business and I don't care. I trust that the Lord Jesus Christ will sort it all out in His time.

[ansel12]

Yes Harry Reid is a temple Mormon, he sells and imposes abortion and gay marriage on America as his life’s work, and is anti-God, but he pays the money to the religion’s headquarters, so he remains among the holiest of the Mormons.

As far as the Christians being being against the Mormon polygamy, it seems that they were correct.

The Americans were pressuring the Joseph Smith cult to stop polygamy, at the very same moment that God was getting ready to tell them to abandon it.

How cool is that?

It was the same with blacks, while America was watching Harrison Ford in “Star Wars”, and pressuring the Mormon religion to allow blacks full equality, God also told the Mormons that it was time to allow blacks full equality.

How cool is that?

[StormPrepper]

Where exactly is this prophesy?

You can find it in book "Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith", by Joseph Fielding Smith.

What's to stop the lawless one from just seizing the property and goods? Governments far less evil than the one prophesied to be controlled by the Beast think nothing of taking property if it suits their purposes. The ability to resist will be somewhat limited since he'll control the military, too.

This is why a living prophet is necessary and the Lord has provided one. Rev 11 talks about two prophets that are on the earth prior to the second coming. That's what their purpose is, to guide God's Church through the last days.

You're right. There is evil now, but it will get worse. But God knew exactly what would happen even before the earth was created. Therefore, He knows how to guide His people to safety. Just like God did for the Hebrews when He sent Moses.

As I pointed out earlier, your church has already backed down on one of its sacred principles of marriage. The doctrine in that case most certainly changed.

And as I have stated the doctrine has not changed. There's a difference between doctrine and practice. The doctrine is eternal marriage, which has not changed. The subset is plural marriage, which practice is dictated by the needs of the Lord at any given time.

Isaiah prophesied that polygamy would be practiced after Christ's second coming. Therefore, I know it will be reinstated at some time. probably not until the second coming or just before.

[StormPrepper]

so he remains among the holiest of the Mormons.

So you're now inventing categories for us that we don't even have for ourselves. "holiest"? Whatever floats your boat.

As far as the Christians being being against the Mormon polygamy, it seems that they were correct.

Violating the US Constitution was correct? Really? So called Christians that do that are no better than the worst of the liberals.

The Americans were pressuring the Joseph Smith cult

I was wondering how long it would take before you became insulting. Let me know when you want to talk like a grown up and we can continue.

[ansel12]

The Christians were spot on, their timing was right in sync with God’s, about telling the Mormons to stop practicing polygamy and racism.

How cool is that?

[laotzu]

It is true. It is all true. Mormonism is a cult!! It says so in a cartoon.

Reject this dangerous Mormon cult, and join the Church of Cartoon Kristianity.
-------------------------We’ve got pickled okra. We are orthodox.-------------------------

I stand with you, my Mormon brother in Christ. Salute.

[Alex Murphy]

"Where exactly is this prophesy?" [i.e. Joseph Smith prophesied that the gay marriage ruling was going to happen, therefore Mormons were not surprised and had been expecting this to happen]

You can find it in book "Teachings of the Prophet Joseph Smith", by Joseph Fielding Smith.

Which section in particular are you making reference to? That's a nearly 400 page book. Is the content of that book, and that "prophecy" in particular, considered an official teaching or scripture of the Church of Jesus Christ, Latter-Day Saints? Because this "prophecy" is not included in one of the LDS four "standard works", we can safely conclude that it was never presented to the Church for a sustaining vote, never passed such a vote, and therefore was not then and is not now a doctrine of the Church. It cannot be held to be a reliable, true prophecy from God. Even assuming that it was reliably recorded, it was merely Joseph Smith's private view on the subject, and nothing more.

[RFEngineer]

“As an LDS member,”

Then you believe in polgamy in the afterlife, which is less than helpful in this debate.

[AppyPappy]

I’m pretty sure they are allowed to believe what they want to believe.

I think you meant “Your church believes...”.
I am UMC but I don’t subscribe to all the church beliefs .

[CynicalBear]

>>Isaiah prophesied that in the millennium after Christ's second coming there would be polygamy.<<

Now where in Isaiah is that prophesied? Chapter and verse please.