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Why I'm Still Catholic (And Why Other People Aren't)
catholic365.com ^ | 6/24/2015 | y Anabelle Hazard

Posted on 06/26/2015 10:18:59 AM PDT by Morgana

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To: BipolarBob

A Christian Sunday liturgy with a ritual re-enactment of the Last Supper dates from the earliest days of Christianity. The practice of the Apostles thus illuminates the bare words of the New Testament.


21 posted on 06/26/2015 2:10:45 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
>>Similarly, the details of Catholic doctrine and teachings are grounded in specific passages of scripture.<<

Please show the apostles teaching about the assumption of Mary and the requirement to believe it like the Catholic Church requires.

>>That Protestants interpret such passages differently does not make Catholics or Protestants into pagans.<<

The Catholic Church and it's apologists readily admit they incorporate paganism.

The use of temples, and these dedicated to particular saints, and ornamented on occasions with branches of trees; incense, lamps, and candles; votive offerings on recovery from illness; holy water; asylums; holydays and seasons, use of calendars, processions, blessings on the fields; sacerdotal vestments, the tonsure, the ring in marriage, turning to the East, images at a later date, perhaps the ecclesiastical chant, and the Kyrie Eleison, are all of pagan origin, and sanctified by their adoption into the Church.[Cardinal Newman - Development of Christian Doctrine, pg 373]

God said do NOT do that.

Deuteronomy 12:30 beware that you are not ensnared to follow them, after they are destroyed before you, and that you do not inquire after their gods, saying, 'How do these nations serve their gods, that I also may do likewise?' 32 Thou shalt not do so unto the LORD thy God:

>>Modern Catholic teaching regards Protestants<<

So it changed over time? LOL

22 posted on 06/26/2015 2:11:14 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

“But I always felt that the Catholic Church was an idea that was worth staying and fighting for, given the personal commission given to Peter by Christ.”

I puzzle as to why Catholics don’t feel this way about Paul, commissioned by the RISEN LORD to preach among the Gentiles (i.e. most Catholics). Why is the apostle chosen by the Spirit to author THIRTEEN (maybe fourteen) letters in the New Testament considered less authoritative than the one who authored two?

God continued to reveal truth after the Gospels and Acts. Much of it is to be found in Paul’s letters. Worth taking a look at.


23 posted on 06/26/2015 2:15:18 PM PDT by avenir (I'm pessimistic about man, but I'm optimistic about GOD!)
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To: Buckeye McFrog

God said He knew of no other Rock but Him yet Catholics claim it’s a man? Maybe God forgot or something? How does that work?


24 posted on 06/26/2015 2:24:05 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CodeToad
>>And no mention of Jesus?<<

He's obviously in the background for Catholics.

25 posted on 06/26/2015 2:25:20 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Morgana
Glad it's working out for you.


26 posted on 06/26/2015 2:29:31 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: vladimir998

LOL I was waiting for someone naive enough to try that one. She didn’t stop there with that thought. She tied it to earning grace and “sharing in redemption” as if Christ didn’t do quite enough. Catholics just can’t help but try to take some of the credit can they? Like I said vlad, not one point was according to scripture.


27 posted on 06/26/2015 2:33:46 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
The Catholic teaching of the assumption of Mary into heaven is based on the belief that, as the Mother of Christ, Mary was protected from the bodily corruption of death. In addition, well-documented Marian apparitions have deeply influenced Catholic doctrines in regard to Mary, especially appearances at Lourdes, Fatima, and Guadeloupe.

The ritual practices and vessels that you disparage originated with the Jews and are described in the Old Testament. Recognition of and veneration of saints is based on proof of a life of heroic Christian virtue and of miracles credibly attributed to them after their death.

28 posted on 06/26/2015 2:42:03 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: CynicalBear
The Catholic teaching of the assumption of Mary into heaven is based on the belief that, as the Mother of Christ, Mary was protected from the bodily corruption of death. In addition, well-documented Marian apparitions have deeply influenced Catholic doctrines in regard to Mary, especially appearances at Lourdes, Fatima, and Guadeloupe.

The ritual practices and vessels that you disparage originated with the Jews and are described in the Old Testament. Recognition of and veneration of saints is based on proof of a life of heroic Christian virtue and of miracles credibly attributed to them after their death.

29 posted on 06/26/2015 2:42:03 PM PDT by Rockingham
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To: Rockingham
All pagan in origin.

Galatians 1:8 But even if we, or an angel from heaven, should preach to you a gospel contrary to what we have preached to you, he is to be accursed!

The Catholic Church teaches "another gospel".

30 posted on 06/26/2015 2:47:40 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: Rockingham
A Christian Sunday liturgy with a ritual re-enactment of the Last Supper dates from the earliest days of Christianity. The practice of the Apostles thus illuminates the bare words of the New Testament.

Excellent! Please direct me to the Bible verses so that I may read it for myself.

31 posted on 06/26/2015 2:58:25 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Morgana

I was hoping to read about the struggles of Catholics during the present crisis.


32 posted on 06/26/2015 3:01:21 PM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The "end of history" will be Worldwide Judaic Theocracy.)
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To: Rockingham; CynicalBear
Modern Catholic teaching regards Protestants as errant on specific points of doctrine but as Christians nonetheless and due good will from Catholics as fellow believers in Christ. As a Catholic, I have known many Protestants of admirable faith and virtue and have attended Protestant services that fully manifested the spirit of Christianity. On the whole, I think it unlikely that Christ would endorse his followers being hostile and condemnatory toward each other based on reasonably disputable points of doctrine.

Sorry this is just not true.. Every Pope MUST AFFIRM the findings of the Council of Trent ...which curse/damn all protestants to hell

Canon 12 reads as follows: "If anyone says that justifying faith is nothing else than confidence in divine mercy, which remits sins for Christ's sake, or that it is this confidence alone that justifies us, let him be anathema."

http://www.thegospelcoalition.org/article/9-things-you-should-know-about-the-council-of-trent

33 posted on 06/26/2015 3:06:02 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Morgana; CynicalBear; metmom; Mark17

Her article points out what I am no longer Catholic


34 posted on 06/26/2015 3:07:34 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: BipolarBob
To do this in remembrance of Me would correctly be practised once a year and recounting Gods miracles in releasing us from the bondage of sin through the Blood of Jesus Christ.

That's one way of looking at it. But the practice of the early church, as recorded in the Didache, Hippolytus of Rome, Justin Martyr, and others, was to celebrate it weekly on Sunday, in honor of the resurrection.

To do this sacred testament more often conflicts with the example and makes it common and profanes it.

Your opinion maybe, but not something stated in Scripture.

35 posted on 06/26/2015 3:09:23 PM PDT by Campion
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To: CynicalBear

“LOL I was waiting for someone naive enough to try that one.”

LOL I was waiting for an anti-Catholic to try and spin that one.

“She didn’t stop there with that thought.”

The anti-Catholic won’t stop there with the spin.

“She tied it to earning grace and “sharing in redemption” as if Christ didn’t do quite enough.”

The anti-Catholic will falsely claim the author said something about “earning grace” and claim “sharing in redemption” means “Christ didn’t do quite enough”.

“Catholics just can’t help but try to take some of the credit can they?”

Anti-Catholics just can’t help but try to fake things to attack Catholics.

“Like I said vlad, not one point was according to scripture.”

Like I said, CynicalBear, many times, Newman was right when he wrote, “To Protestantism False Witness is the principle of propagation.”


36 posted on 06/26/2015 3:10:36 PM PDT by vladimir998
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To: RnMomof7
which curse/damn all protestants to hell

It's been explained many times on this forum why this statement is incorrect.

37 posted on 06/26/2015 3:10:51 PM PDT by Campion
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To: RnMomof7; Rockingham

Today’s Catholics will say most anything to try to lure us into the paganism of Catholicism.


38 posted on 06/26/2015 3:18:31 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: vladimir998

I always enjoy watching Catholics going into parrot mode.


39 posted on 06/26/2015 3:21:25 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: dware
There are going to be some very sad folks on judgement day.

Not only sad, but shocked as well. I used to be one.

40 posted on 06/26/2015 3:27:43 PM PDT by Mark17 (Lonely people live in every city, men who face a dark and lonely grave. Lonely voices do I hear)
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