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To: metmom

Again, I ask not out of disrespect...I genuinely am confused why this would be a problem to any Protestant, particularly a reformed Protestant.


19 posted on 06/19/2015 7:58:35 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: markomalley

Would YOU be happy with a one world religion?

Are you happy with the CCC stating that the muslims worship the same God as you all?

Are you happy with the compromising with muslims the pope have been doing? With his comments on the environment? His socialist agenda?

All those things have an impact on those outside the church. With the church adding it’s weight to those agendas, it just increases the momentum of the one world government, socialist, eco whacko crowd and that makes it harder to fight. I do not want them to run my life.

All that is contributing to the destruction of our country and the freedoms we have enjoyed in the past.

I don’t understand why someone who not understand why all the the above would be a problem for me.

What the church does within itself, that affects only itself, is not the issue. It’s what the RCC is doing that affects those outside it that bothers me.


22 posted on 06/19/2015 8:08:09 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: markomalley
Again, I ask not out of disrespect...I genuinely am confused why this would be a problem to any Protestant, particularly a reformed Protestant.

Fair enough as questions go, but it seems to suggest a very different view of the Reformation than what is generally held by the modern descendants of that movement. Then as now, the interest among the reformers was not division for it's own sake, or change for change's sake, but an attempt to worship God and teach the Gospel according to the light of Scripture.  In other words, the transformation sought was reform in the true sense, a purge of false teaching and incremental idolatry that had been tolerated for so long that a crisis of conflict with Scriptural belief was inevitable.

But Francis and liberation theology do not represent a resurgence of Biblical theology.  Quite the opposite.  Marxism is the codified idolatry of man as god, Marx's ideal man as the primary object of worship, leveraging any attribute of Christian theology that can be twisted into to serving that idol.  

So no, we do not rejoice in the corruption of the remaining good within Catholicism.  Reformers generally believe in common grace, the idea that God can and does prevent people and institutions from becoming as bad as they could be.  We see it as a demonstration of God working graciously for the benefit of His people, that He forestalls the advance of evil in the world, even when He uses institutions that are burdened with serious error to do so.

So when we see Francis come along and replace the old idols with new ones, and seemingly hell-bent to destroy the good that remains, why would that cause us to rejoice?  The new idols in their way are far more dangerous.  They can sweep entire nations into a cultural religion that is utterly hostile to the practice of true Christianity.  This is an apocalypticly bad change, and no, we are not happy about it.

Peace,

SR
36 posted on 06/20/2015 6:23:55 AM PDT by Springfield Reformer (Winston Churchill: No Peace Till Victory!)
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