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1 posted on 06/01/2015 11:03:22 AM PDT by NYer
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Catholic ping!


2 posted on 06/01/2015 11:03:42 AM PDT by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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I see revelation, Matthew 24 and Ezekiel all around me.

Seriously.


3 posted on 06/01/2015 11:05:04 AM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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Ah, all are caucasian males, that’s good! And if they are former WASPS’s that’s even better. (sarcasm)


4 posted on 06/01/2015 11:06:52 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Abortion long ago passed from being a moral issue to being an issue of national security.
We are destroying our future and now we are trying to prop things up with illegal aliens, who, frankly, are not on our side.


5 posted on 06/01/2015 11:11:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (How did I end up in this hand-basket, and why is it getting so hot?)
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Thank you for posting!

Perhaps this posting on another thread pertaining to the "culture" may be of interest here also.

The month of December is the month when Christians celebrate the birth of One called "the Savior"!

That specific term implies, does it not, that a "Savior's" role must be to save from something?

In 1973, Dr. Karl Menninger, a Psychiatrist, wrote a book called,"What Ever Became of Sin?

In 2008, an article appeared in "Culture Watch" by Bill Muehlenberg, which reviewed Menninger's query, and added commentary about the degree to which redefinition of words and terms had played a part in societal understanding. Here is a small excerpt from this thought-provoking piece (recommend a full read, however):

"A recent story in the Mail on Sunday reports on changes made to the Oxford Junior Dictionary. And it seems it is not just the word ‘sin’ which has got the axe. According to the story, a number of Christian and biblical terms have been deleted, including “abbey, altar, bishop, chapel, christen, disciple, monk, nun, pew, saint”.

"The article quotes one concerned parent: “Lisa Saunders, from County Down, Northern Ireland, compared six editions since the 1970s and was horrified to discover that a whole range of words relating to Christianity, nature and British history had been axed over the years. ‘The Christian faith still has a strong following,’ she said. ‘To eradicate so many words associated with Christianity will have a big effect on the numerous primary schools who use it. We know that language moves on and we can’t be fuddy-duddy about it, but you don’t cull hundreds of important words in order to get in a different set of ICT words’.”

The article also provides the rationale from the publisher: “Oxford University Press said it analysed millions of words from children’s books and the school curriculum and looked at how frequently they occurred in considering how to update new editions. Advice from teachers is also taken before the final choice is made. Vineeta Gupta, head of children’s dictionaries, said: ‘We are limited by how big the dictionary can be – little hands must be able to handle it – but we produce 17 children’s dictionaries with different selections and numbers of words. When you look back at older versions of dictionaries, there were lots of examples of flowers for instance. That was because many children lived in semi-rural environments and saw the seasons. Nowadays, the environment has changed. We are also much more multicultural. People don’t go to Church as often as before. Our understanding of religion is within multiculturalism, which is why some words such as “Pentecost” or “Whitsun” would have been in 20 years ago but not now’.”

So what is one to make of all this? Several thoughts come to mind. Sure, as Western societies become increasingly secular such terms will therefore continue to fall out of use. But the fact that a word may not be used a lot may not be a good reason for pulling it from our dictionaries.

Historical terms were also pulled from the dictionary; words such as “coronation, duchess, duke, emperor, empire, monarch, decade”. But as the years roll on, perhaps many will not know or care about such things as the Holocaust. Does that mean we should feel free to delete that term as well?

Certain terms are simply a part of the Western heritage and are too vital to be left out. Christianity played an enormous role in the establishment and continuance of Western civilisation, so it should not so readily be dismissed from our collective memories.

Theological demolition jobs

But leaving aside for the moment what words we include or exclude from our dictionaries, the gradual disappearance of the notion of sin has far-wider implications and ramifications. For this notion is fundamental to the Judeo-Christian worldview. Take away our understanding of sin, and these two major religious traditions no longer make any sense.

Indeed, biblical Christianity is incoherent without the notion of sin. There can be no good news of the Gospel without first understanding the bad news of sin and the Fall. The mission of Jesus makes no sense if we remove such concepts from our thinking.

Jesus made it clear that the reason he came to earth was to save sinners. For example, as he said in all three Synoptic Gospels: “It is not the healthy who need a doctor, but the sick. I have not come to call the righteous, but sinners”. Take away the doctrine of sin and we take away the doctrine of the Incarnation. Indeed, we take away the entire message of the New Testament.

But of course very liberalised versions of Christianity are quite happy to dispense with the notion of sin altogether. They think it has no place in the believer’s vocabulary or theology. Plenty of examples come to mind here."

(End of Excerpt)

In America, we have seen semantic maneuvers and outright censorship of the very ideas of liberty upon which our Constitution's protections were built.

At the time of the report titled "A Nation at Risk" was published, there were warnings about the degree to which the public schools in America had failed in teaching students about their nation's historical foundations, one observing that there had been an effecting "erasing" of the national memory.

So-called "progressive" imposition of coercive control by political elites, as a substitute for self-government and an ignoring of what the Founders acknowledged to be the "Supreme Judge of the World" in their Declaration of Independence may have led us to where we are today.

Semantics and hidden meanings have played a large part in this Administration's promotion of its idea of "hope and change." Citizens, in their ignorance, supplied their own sometimes uninformed meanings, and now we see some consequences of an uninformed electorate.

A Memorial and Remonstrance. . . . - James Madison (Excerpt)

"Because we hold it for a fundamental and undeniable truth, “that Religion or the duty which we owe to our Creator and the Manner of discharging it, can be directed only by reason and conviction, not by force or violence.”

"The Religion then of every man must be left to the conviction and conscience of every man; and it is the right of every man to exercise it as these may dictate. This right is in its nature an unalienable right. It is unalienable; because the opinions of men, depending only on the evidence contemplated by their own minds, cannot follow the dictates of other men: It is unalienable also; because what is here a right towards men, is a duty towards the Creator. It is the duty of every man to render to the Creator such homage, and such only, as he believes to be acceptable to him. This duty is precedent both in order of time and degree of obligation, to the claims of Civil Society. Before any man can be considered as a member of Civil Society, he must be considered as a subject of the Governor of the Universe: And if a member of Civil Society, who enters into any subordinate Association, must always do it with a reservation of his duty to the general authority; much more must every man who becomes a member of any particular Civil Society, do it with a saving of his allegiance to the Universal Sovereign. We maintain therefore that in matters of Religion, no man’s right is abridged by the institution of Civil Society, and that Religion is wholly exempt from its cognizance.

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"Although all men are born free, slavery has been the general lot of the human race. Ignorant--they have been cheated; asleep--they have been surprised; divided--the yoke has been forced upon them. But what is the lesson?...the people ought to be enlightened, to be awakened, to be united, that after establishing a government they should watch over it....It is universally admitted that a well-instructed people alone can be permanently free." - James Madison


6 posted on 06/01/2015 11:12:43 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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I stand with you on #1 and #3, and I don’t mean that as damning with faint praise, but rather as a point of connection to help bring all of Christ’s followers together to face the Adversary where it thinks it is.


7 posted on 06/01/2015 11:14:21 AM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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One wonders if some judge can overturn this vote of the people, like so many have done here. The “will of the people” is a joke to the Left. The states must stand up to such tyranny... or maybe some judge will overturn the 2016 election... proclaiming it’s “unconstitutional” for the GOPer to win and adjudicating Hillary president. Just wunderin’???


8 posted on 06/01/2015 11:15:21 AM PDT by FiddlePig
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"We Catholics will always love Ireland, America and Europe. It is sad to realize that they no longer love us back."

Scripture tells us this would happen, we shouldn't be surprised.

9 posted on 06/01/2015 11:29:33 AM PDT by circlecity
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The demographic structure of the world will change in the decades to come. The notion that religion is synonymous with morality is absurd.


10 posted on 06/01/2015 11:35:09 AM PDT by Poison Pill
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as Ireland drifts into irrelevance.

I just hope the auld soil sticks around long enough for my ashes to be scattered in Lough Mask.

11 posted on 06/01/2015 11:41:10 AM PDT by ScottinVA (The election of Obama was a hate crime.)
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quote “At the same time, America will become mostly Latino”

Nope. There just are not enough Latino’s in all of Central and South America for that to happen.

On the other hand there are 3 billion+ Asians and even though you dont know it because it’s not being covered in the press, the Asian population is the US is growing much faster than the Hispanic and as I just pointed out, there are A LOT more Asians than Hispanics


12 posted on 06/01/2015 11:43:58 AM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (You can't spell Hillary without using the letters L, I, A, & R)
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The west will become new missionary territory for the Christians coming from the countries mentioned in the article.


18 posted on 06/01/2015 1:24:43 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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The author is correct, but the new Christian centers will be radically different than the old ones.

Once Italy falls, do you really think the rest of the world’s Catholics will follow a Pope in muslim Italy? After Constantinople fell, the Orthodox center moved to Russia. After Russia fell, it moved back to Greece.

My point is that I expect theology to change. Not in the creedal thins, but in the cultural things. The argument over a “Latin” mass may not hold any ideals to a culture with no history of Rome.


19 posted on 06/01/2015 1:37:03 PM PDT by redgolum ("God is dead" -- Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" -- God.)
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