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Does God Always Answer Prayer? - Chapter 21
Man: The Dwelling Place of God ^ | A.W. Tozer

Posted on 05/19/2015 3:08:20 PM PDT by metmom

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To: hoagy62

God has to be good.

Being all powerful, if He wasn’t all good, He would be all evil.

And being all evil, He would be incapable of any good, and would obliterate anything that wasn’t Himself. He wouldn’t be able to tolerate any challenge to Himself and so would eliminate it.

Everything would implode on itself.

He is also the ONLY explanation for what there’s ANY good at all in this world filled with sin and corruption.

It occurred to me that people are asking the wrong question when they ask if God is good, why is there evil in the world.

Considering the level of evil, why is there any good at all and where did it come from?

There’s only one answer to that.


21 posted on 05/19/2015 5:56:05 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: hoagy62
If He is so good, why doesn’t He do something?

I hear you and I think that just about everyone wrestles with that question.

And pats answers and platitudes don't cut it.

22 posted on 05/19/2015 5:57:20 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: smvoice

God bless you, smvoice.

We see through a glass darkly and do not fully comprehend what we have in Christ that we are presently in possession of.

It’s easy to trust God when things are going well.

Our faith is strengthened and grows when we trust Him when things aren’t going so well.

The health, wealth, and prosperity teaching has really polluted our thinking and concept of God. We have come to have entitlement mentality, thinking that God owes us for whatever reason, because we really aren’t so bad after all.


23 posted on 05/19/2015 6:02:49 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: smvoice; hoagy62

“What He has given us is in heaven. Where we are blessed with all SPIRITUAL BLESSINGS in heavenly places.”

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“Do not store up for yourselves treasures on earth [such as wealth, health, easy times, etc.], where moths and vermin destroy, and where thieves break in and steal.”

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We were just learning (again) about the various reasons why bad things happen. Most of the time it is just natural consequences of a fallen world (”moths and vermin”), often it is because of evil in people, including ourselves (”thieves”), and sometimes it is God trying to either correct us, or to push us on to bigger and better things.

But regardless of the cause, God can use it to His good.

I’m not so sure I believe the saying “God never gives us more than we can handle” (as most of the time God ISN’T “giving” it to us.) But I like the thing I saw on my wife’s facebook.

“They say God never gives us more than we can handle.”
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He must think I’m a real Badass!


24 posted on 05/19/2015 6:04:50 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts It is happening again.)
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To: metmom
Does God Always Answer Prayer?


Cowboy Poetry
by Bill Jones
 
 
 

Jake, the rancher, went one day
to fix a distant fence.
The wind was cold and gusty
and the clouds rolled gray and dense.

As he pounded the last staples in
and gathered tools to go,
The temperature had fallen,
the wind and snow began to blow.

When he finally reached his pickup,
he felt a heavy heart.
From the sound of that ignition,
he knew it wouldn't start.

So Jake did what most of us
would do if we had been there.
He humbly bowed his balding head
and sent aloft a prayer.

As he turned the key for the last time,
he softly cursed his luck.
They found him three days later,
frozen stiff in that old truck.

Now Jake had been around in life
and done his share of roaming.
But when he saw Heaven, he was shocked --
it looked just like Wyoming!

Of all the saints in Heaven,
his favorite was St. Peter.
(Now, this line ain't needed
but it helps with rhyme and meter)

So they set and talked a minute or two,
or maybe it was three.
Nobody was keeping' score --
in Heaven time is free.

"I've always heard," Jake said to Pete,
"that God will answer prayer,
But one time I asked for help,
well, he just plain wasn't there."

"Does God answer prayers of some,
and ignore the prayers of others?
That don't seem exactly square --
I know all men are brothers."

"Or does he randomly reply,
without good rhyme or reason?
Maybe, it's the time of day,
the weather or the season."

"Now I ain't trying to act smart,
it's just the way I feel.
And I was wondering', could you tell me --
what the heck's the deal?!"

Peter listened very patiently
and when Jake was done,
There were smiles of recognition,
and he said, "So, you're the one!!"

"That day your truck, it wouldn't start,
and you sent your prayer a flying,
You gave us all a real bad time,
with hundreds of us trying."

"A thousand angels rushed,
to check the status of your file,
But you know, Jake, we hadn't heard
from you in quite a long while."

"And though all prayers are answered,
and God ain't got no quota,
He didn't recognize your voice,
and started a truck in Minnesota."

25 posted on 05/19/2015 6:52:45 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: terycarl
Ruined a lot of my planned good times, but probably saved me from jail and death.

Sounds like you had a GOOD upbringing!

26 posted on 05/19/2015 6:54:04 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: hoagy62
I've run into a couple of cases like this at our church; too.

All I can tell you is that His ways are not OUR ways.

And the potter and clay thing; too.

27 posted on 05/19/2015 6:55:33 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: 21twelve

AMEN!


28 posted on 05/19/2015 6:56:28 PM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom

Never the Less not My will but Thine be done


29 posted on 05/19/2015 7:02:07 PM PDT by easternsky
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To: metmom
God bless you also, mm. I don't think we can even BEGIN to comprehend what God has in store for us. And why would He promise us all spiritual blessings in heavenly places? What good, some would ask, to have it in heaven when it may be needed here NOW, on earth?

"That in the ages to come he might shew the exceeding riches of his grace in his kindness toward us through Christ Jesus."(Eph. 2:7). It's not about NOW. It's about the AGES TO COME.

30 posted on 05/19/2015 7:36:59 PM PDT by smvoice ("Now is the accepted time; now is the day of salvation" 2Cor. 6:2)
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To: hoagy62
Now...my question is : why didn’t God answer the many prayers lifted on behalf of this man? It makes absolutely no sense to me.

No-one understands fully what Christ wills...dead children...malformed babies....weather disasters...it's really hard to understand what He has in mind......on the other hand, it is not ours to judge....God is God and we are just here....the world is a big place and eternity is a long,long time....it is for us to accept, not necessarily understand.....

31 posted on 05/19/2015 8:32:56 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: Elsie
Ruined a lot of my planned good times, but probably saved me from jail and death. Sounds like you had a GOOD upbringing!

VERY GOOD...I cheated a little, but who didn't....my sons are MARVELOUS SUCCESSFUL PEOPLE, my grandkids who are of age are magnificent....Emily is a state finalist in gymnastics!!!!!!!...God is great and God is good....have I had any bad times, you bet, but that's the breaks of the game...life is surprisingly short....I'm nowhere near done enjoying it, but the end is catching up fast!!!!

32 posted on 05/19/2015 8:46:46 PM PDT by terycarl (COMMON SENSE PREVAILS OVERALL)
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To: metmom

When Jesus was on the cross, the two thieves hurled insults at him and he ignored them. The moment one of the thieves realized who Jesus truly was and asked to be remembered, Jesus immediately turned to him and answered him.


33 posted on 05/19/2015 10:29:04 PM PDT by ShasheMac (Be still and know that I am God. Psalm 46:10)
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To: ShasheMac

God will ALWAYS answer the prayer of repentance and confession for salvation.

What Tozer is talking about here is seems, is those who claim to name the name of Christ, live in a state of deliberate sin, and think that God is answering their prayers.


34 posted on 05/19/2015 10:45:35 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: stayathomemom

I thought His answers were; Yes, No, If you insist....


35 posted on 05/20/2015 3:01:21 AM PDT by trebb (Where in the the hell has my country gone?)
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To: terycarl

I hear ya; Brother!

All these things we see thru that glass darkly will be explained fully.

We are BOTH gonna be surprised at some of the things we thought!


36 posted on 05/20/2015 4:50:21 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: trebb

Oooooh!


37 posted on 05/20/2015 4:51:16 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; daniel1212; Gamecock; HossB86
I must confess that I am no Tozer fan and this chapter would stand as an example of why.

>>(2) we must be on what old-fashioned Christians often call "praying ground"; that is, we must be living lives pleasing to God.<<

Really? Not good enough to go to God in prayer?

Just as I am, without one plea,
But that Thy blood was shed for me,
And that Thou bidst me come to Thee,
O Lamb of God, I come, I come.

>>Of certain persons James says plainly: "Ye ask, and receive not, because ye ask amiss, that ye may consume it upon your lusts." From that brief sentence we may learn that God refuses some requests because they who make them are not morally worthy to receive the answer.<<

Does anyone find that last statement by Tozer troubling? "Morally worthy"? So I have to be "morally worthy" before God will answer my prayers?

It seems to me that this chapter would eliminate most if not all prayer for those who understand the depravity of man. I just find this chapter seriously troubling.

38 posted on 05/20/2015 5:55:01 AM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: metmom

Sure He does! Just sometimes, the answer is “No.”.


39 posted on 05/20/2015 5:56:29 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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To: Mean Daddy
He has a sense of humor because sometimes I get what I want, say like patience and then I’m given an opportunity to practice it.

Yep. Sometimes the answer comes by way of OJT (On the Job Training).

40 posted on 05/20/2015 5:59:08 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
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