The Church Prior to the Reformation: The Mass

History ping

What, precisely, was being protested?

If you want to be precise, the protest was against the Diet of Speyer (1529), which "aimed to reverse the policy of religious tolerance adopted in 1526".

Theologically, FRiend.

All anti-Catholicism, all the time.

Posted articles in the past 2 months:

The Church Prior to the Reformation: The Mass

Rome's Meaninless Claim to "Unbroken Chain Of Succession"

Was The Papacy Established By Christ? (Part 2)

Was The Papacy Established By Christ? (Part 1)

Roman Catholic “presuppositions” on the early papacy are in retreat

Are you infallible?

Blind Followers, Inconsistencies, Double Standards and More Confusion

The Reformation is over. Catholics 0, Protestants 1

“Assurance: Every Believer’s Birthright”

Prayers For, To,and Through the Dead

[Response to 2013 WSJ article] Cultural Catholicism and the End of Life: “You Earned It”

The Catholic Dogma of Infallibility

Thumbs up or thumbs down on Rome?

The Concept of Catholic Unity in the Doctrine of the Eucharist at the time of Trent

Mary's Virginity

The Catholic Eucharist: Unbiblical and Idolatry

Our paschal lamb

Interpreting The Bible And Later Sources On The Eucharist

Is John 6:66 Evidence of Transubstantiation?

The Bread of life Discourse

Never Thirst-Taking Jesus" Literally" can be Fatal

On taking John 6 literally

The Sacrifice of the Mass, Hebrews, and the Problem of the One-and-the-Many

The Evolution of the Sacrifice of the Mass: PART 2

Did Jesus Have Fleshly Half-Brothers?

Is the church a pillar & pedestal of truth?

Does Mary Intercede for Christians?

Praying of the Rosary Is NOT Bible-Based Teaching

Rejecting Mariology

By Faith Alone: The Conversion of Martin Luther

Rome, authority and Argumentum Ad Infinitum

Three Words Catholics Do Not Understand

Calvin contra Rome on Scripture (Introduction)

The Evolution of the Sacrifice of the Mass: Part 1

Idolatry

How Reliable Is Roman Catholic History?
An Example in a Recent Edition of This Rock Magazine

Early Church Evidence Refutes Real Presence

The Lord's Supper: solemn symbolism or corporeal flesh and blood?

The Conversion of a Catholic Priest

Explaining the Heresy of Catholicism Grace vs> works

The Nature of Justifying Faith

Why These 66 Books?

The more I learn of the Catholic Church the more appalling it becomes.

fascinating ... thanx

Seems like I read something about the wrath of God poured out on a seven-hilled institution???

Ya ... so ?

San Francisco, I imagine.

Anti-Catholic authors love to paint the RCC as running around setting heretics alight before the reformation. Truth is Ridley was convicted of heresy in a show trial, by his own countrymen in England, because he supported the wrong person for succession to the throne.

With the number of errors in the Catholic religion the task seems daunting doesn’t it? She is doing a stellar job and should be commended often.

>>Seems like I read something about the wrath of God poured out on a seven-hilled institution???<<

"lest ye be partakers of her plagues" is the admonition for those God calls "my people".

Good. I am learning a lot about this. There are some great posters on here and she is one of them. Don’t you just love to learn? I do.

Isn’t that the truth?

How about those killed for having a Bible?

Are you claiming the Albigensians?

Thanks for the list.

Please don't try to tell us what our liturgy is all about. Good Grief, it all started with the words of Jesus at the Last Supper.

The Heavenly Elements of the Liturgy
What We Do at Mass and Why
The Nature of the Mass and the need for Sacrifice

The Liturgy is More than a Text: A meditation on rediscovering a wider understanding of Sacred Liturgy
Symbolism and the Language of the Liturgy
Pope Benedict uses older ritual for his private Mass
Interesting Liturgical Commentaries from the Office for Liturgical Celebrations of Supreme Pontiff
Putting Flesh on the Word “Catholic” — Easter Mass in Bali, Indonesia
Easter Mass becomes papal pep rally in Rome
Catholic Mass revisions launch war of words
"Let Us Live With Him! Let Us Learn >From Him!" (Pope's homily at the Mass of the Lord's Supper)
THE PRIEST IN THE COMMUNION RITES - Liturgy Prepares for Reception of the Eucharist
All Should Offer Their Bodies and Blood at Mass (Father Cantalamessa) [Catholic Caucus]
Can't the Holy Father Just Make the Liturgical Reform Happen?
Pope wants crucifix at the centre of ALL westward-facing altars during Mass
Benedict XVI's "Novel" Traditions
Telling Time By the Catholic Church
Good Hymns, Bad Hymns
Order of the Mass (New Translation Catechesis Part I)(Catholic Caucus)
Open Ears, Open Heart (Preparing to Receive the Liturgy of the Word each Sunday)
Effort to stop new liturgical translations at USCCB meeting fails
Church Awaits Word on Liturgical Reform
Vatican Denies Liturgical Reform Reports
(Cardinal) Newman on Rites and Ceremonies
Explains The Supreme Importance Of The Liturgy

Altar Card for the Modern Roman Liturgy
Slating the Chairs (USCCB prepares for its November plenary session)
Mass appeal: "It's like Jolt Cola for the Soul" [Catholic Caucus]
All Four Pending Liturgical Items Pass; Work On The Translation Of The New Roman Missal Continues
WHERE THE PRIEST SHOULD BEGIN MASS
GUIDELINES FOR THE PUBLICATION OF LITURGICAL BOOKS [New Missal] (Long)
AND WITH YOUR SPIRIT, Et cum spiritu tuo, (New Missal liturgical translations)
The New Missal - Historic Moment in Liturgical Renewal [Bishop Serratelli]
Know Him in the Breaking of Bread - A Guide to the Mass
Vatican liturgical official makes new plea for 'reform of the reform'
Liturgical Vestments (and prayers the priest says while vesting for Mass)
Vestments… Tools of the Liturgical Trade! [Ecumenical]
The (Catholic) Mass (as explained by a youth for Evangelical friends) [Ecumenical]
What the Catholic Mass means to converts
The "Old" Liturgical Movement: 1947 "Benedictine" Arrangement [Catholic Caucus]
Good News for the [Catholic] Liturgy
'An Ordinance Forever' - The Biblical Origins of the Mass [Ecumenical]
The Sacrifice of the Mass: Liturgical Vestments
What Do You See at (Catholic) Mass?
Purification of Sacred Vessels in U.S. (and more on the Purification of our Lord)

Tyranny of Words (Catholic liturgy - NO vs. TLM)
Mass should be enlightening and elevating, not a cookie cutter ritual
What You {Catholics} Need to Know: Mass (Sacred Liturgy) [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
"The Catholic Mass ... Revealed"
The Battle Over the Mass [Catholic Caucus]
Scriptural Basis of the Mass as Sacrifice (Where is that in the Bible?)
Giving to God in Mass [Liturgy of the Eucharist]
Liturgy, Learning and the Language of the Catholic Faith
Cardinal Arinze's Mass Etiquette 101
Prostration and Vestments on Good Friday And More on the Precious Bloodbr> Catholic Liturgy - Funeral Masses for a Suicide And More on Confession for RCIA Candidates
The Most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass - A Primer for Clueless Catholics (Part 1)
The Orthodox Divine Liturgy, the Roman Catholic Mass and the Anglican Eucharist...
Catholic Liturgy - Dramatic Readings at Mass (And More on Processions, and Extra Hosts)
Catholic Liturgy - Mass Intentions
Catholic Liturgy - Pre-recorded Music at Mass And More on Communion Services
Vatican: Matters to be observed or to be avoided regarding the Most Holy Eucharist (April 23, 2004)
POPE ISSUES APOSTOLIC LETTER ON THE SACRED LITURGY
Liturgy: Are Glass Chalices OK for Mass?
EUCHARIST: HOLY MEAL Without Humility Prayer Degenerates Into Arrogance (Lectio Divina: 30th Sunday in Ordinary Time)
The Bishop's Role in Liturgical Reform
Bishop to Ad-Libbing Priest: Only appeal Now is to Rome
Holy Mass is encounter with risen Jesus, Pope says
The buzz on the new "Exultet": here come the bees! [Catholic Caucus]
THE EXULTET: Liturgical Treasure of the Easter Vigil (Old Version)
Cardinal Ranjith to his Clergy: Communion on the Tongue Only and While Kneeling is Mandatory
Essays for Lent: The Mass
The Tridentine Mass: Why I Couldn't Go Back
Dominican Rite Mass in New York City

Clerical Narcissism and Lent
Missing the Missal’s Mass of Potential (New Translation Comments) [Catholic Caucus]
BREAST-BEATING DURING THE CONFITEOR (Catholic Caucus)
Fr. Raymond J. de Souza on the "real hero" behind the new missal translation [Catholic Caucus]
Surpassing All Expectations . . . The New Missal Translation Is A Spectacular Success
The Assent Owed to Vatican II (Catholic Caucus)
Senior bishops predict great results from new Mass translation
New prayers for Advent season [Catholic Caucus] (Read and Rejoice!)
Missal 3.0 – Part 5 [Catholic Caucus]
Catholics Revise Mass; Changes Get Mixed Reviews
Will Catholic Mass Changes Cause Mass Confusion?
Missal 3.0 – Part 4 [Catholic Caucus]
Missal 3.0 – Part 3 [Catholic Caucus]
The New Roman Missal: There Will Be Blood (Catholic Caucus)
Missal 3.0 – Part 2 [Catholic Caucus]
Missal 3.0 – Part 1 [Catholic Caucus]
Mass participation—in body and spirit(Catholic caucus)
Bishop Slattery: "They shouldn't have viewed the old liturgy...as something that needed to...
The Catholic Lectionary (Webiste)
First Sunday with the real translation

Revised Roman Missal binds Catholics across a 2,000-year history
ICEL’s Executive Director: New Missal Translation ‘Long Overdue’ [Catholic Caucus]
Vatican promotes more use of 1962 Roman Missal; not all priests know it (Catholic Caucus)
English bishops say new Mass translation offers chance to deepen faith (Catholic Caucus)
Tradition and Progress Not Opposed, Pope Tells Liturgy Conference
Welcoming the new Mass translation
A Biblical Walk Through the Mass (Book Review) [Ecumenical]
Ratzinger on Liturgical Law
Eight Reasons Why Men Only Should Serve at Mass [Catholic Caucus]
If liberals hate the new translation, it must be good.
Why Kneel for Communion
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Clerical Dress in the City of Rome in the 19th Century (Part 2 of 2)
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Clerical Dress in the City of Rome in the 19th Century (Part 1 of 2)
The Biblical and Heavenly Roots of the Sacred Liturgy
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] The Mass in Slow Motion – The Kyrie (Lord Have Mercy)
On the Mend: The Church in the Early 21st Century
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] Now This is Communion
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] The Mass in Slow Motion – The Penitential Rite
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] The Mass in Slow Motion – The Greeting by the Celebrant
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] The Mass in Slow Motion – The Sign of the Cross

Replies to five objections about the new Missal translation
On EWTN this Autumn: The Biblical Story of the Mass
Ratzinger’s Opera omnia on Liturgy Presented at Meeting
[CATHOLIC CAUCUS] The Mass in Slow Motion – The Celebrant Goes to the Chair
[ECUMENICAL] QUAERITUR: lay Communion minister wouldn’t bless me
Vatican issues final text of the Roman Missal, Third Edition [Catholic Caucus]
Because of the Divine Beauty of the Mass
New Roman Missal Translation Contains Some Last Minute Changes [Catholic Caucus]
Milwaukee priests lament more accurate Roman Missal translation; ‘salt in the wounds’ (Catholic Cau)
[CATHOLIC/ORTHODOX CAUCUS] Clergy to convene, discuss Catholic missal changes (waah alert)
Sacrosanctum Concilium Meant Mass Ad Orientem and in Latin
The Catholic Mass in 155 A.D.
Different Kinds of Silence at Mass
The Priest's Preparation and Thanksgiving for Mass
Vatican official: "The new Mass is a passing phase. In 50 years, that will be entirely clear."
New English Mass Translation from 2011 Advent
Catholic Caucus: New Roman Missal of the Mass
“And With Your Spirit” – It’s Not What You Think
Catholics reach back to church tradition
Truth in the New Translation Series # 4: The Hanc Igitur of the Roman Canon

Bishop Tobin: Get Ready – The Mass is About to Change
The Introductory Rites: No mere greeting
The New Missal: Disaster or Opportunity?
Truth in the New Translation Series #3: The Communicantes of the Roman Canon
The New Missal: Disaster or Opportunity?
Blue Liturgical Vestments (and more on Paschal Candles)
The Future Liturgy of an Anglican Ordinariate: Why not Sarum?
Worship: Entertainment vs. Liturgy (open)
More Reflections on Liturgical Language [Anglo-Catholic Perspective on Latin vs Vernacular Debate]
Helping American Catholics Learn the New Missal
Pope receives copy of complete English translation of Roman Missal
[Catholic Caucus] Prayer and Belief [Pope Benedict targets abuses in the liturgy]
Pope hopes English translation of Missal will be 'springboard for a renewal'
New Mass Translation Given Rome's Approval
Prayer, Magic, Superstition and the Mediaeval Liturgy
The Old Mass Returns
Live Thread: Pontifical High Mass, National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception (Ecumenical)
The Coptic Orthodox Divine Liturgy (for those interested in comparative liturgies)
Card. Castrillon-Hoyos Out At Latin Mass - Breaking
44% of Germans Want the Old Mass

Pope Benedict uses older ritual for his private Mass
Interesting Liturgical Commentaries from the Office for Liturgical Celebrations of Supreme Pontiff
Putting Flesh on the Word “Catholic” — Easter Mass in Bali, Indonesia
Easter Mass becomes papal pep rally in Rome
Catholic Mass revisions launch war of words
"Let Us Live With Him! Let Us Learn >From Him!" (Pope's homily at the Mass of the Lord's Supper)
THE PRIEST IN THE COMMUNION RITES - Liturgy Prepares for Reception of the Eucharist
All Should Offer Their Bodies and Blood at Mass (Father Cantalamessa) [Catholic Caucus]
Can't the Holy Father Just Make the Liturgical Reform Happen?
Pope wants crucifix at the centre of ALL westward-facing altars during Mass
Benedict XVI's "Novel" Traditions
Telling Time By the Catholic Church
Good Hymns, Bad Hymns
Order of the Mass (New Translation Catechesis Part I)(Catholic Caucus)
Open Ears, Open Heart (Preparing to Receive the Liturgy of the Word each Sunday)
Effort to stop new liturgical translations at USCCB meeting fails
Church Awaits Word on Liturgical Reform
Vatican Denies Liturgical Reform Reports
(Cardinal) Newman on Rites and Ceremonies
Explains The Supreme Importance Of The Liturgy

Altar Card for the Modern Roman Liturgy
Slating the Chairs (USCCB prepares for its November plenary session)
Mass appeal: "It's like Jolt Cola for the Soul" [Catholic Caucus]
All Four Pending Liturgical Items Pass; Work On The Translation Of The New Roman Missal Continues
WHERE THE PRIEST SHOULD BEGIN MASS
GUIDELINES FOR THE PUBLICATION OF LITURGICAL BOOKS [New Missal] (Long)
AND WITH YOUR SPIRIT, Et cum spiritu tuo, (New Missal liturgical translations)
The New Missal - Historic Moment in Liturgical Renewal [Bishop Serratelli]
Know Him in the Breaking of Bread - A Guide to the Mass
Vatican liturgical official makes new plea for 'reform of the reform'
Liturgical Vestments (and prayers the priest says while vesting for Mass)
Vestments… Tools of the Liturgical Trade! [Ecumenical]
The (Catholic) Mass (as explained by a youth for Evangelical friends) [Ecumenical]
What the Catholic Mass means to converts
The "Old" Liturgical Movement: 1947 "Benedictine" Arrangement [Catholic Caucus]
Good News for the [Catholic] Liturgy
'An Ordinance Forever' - The Biblical Origins of the Mass [Ecumenical]
The Sacrifice of the Mass: Liturgical Vestments
What Do You See at (Catholic) Mass?
Purification of Sacred Vessels in U.S. (and more on the Purification of our Lord)

Tyranny of Words (Catholic liturgy - NO vs. TLM)
Mass should be enlightening and elevating, not a cookie cutter ritual
What You {Catholics} Need to Know: Mass (Sacred Liturgy) [Catholic/Orthodox Caucus]
"The Catholic Mass ... Revealed"
The Battle Over the Mass [Catholic Caucus]
Scriptural Basis of the Mass as Sacrifice (Where is that in the Bible?)
Giving to God in Mass [Liturgy of the Eucharist]
Liturgy, Learning and the Language of the Catholic Faith
Cardinal Arinze's Mass Etiquette 101
Prostration and Vestments on Good Friday And More on the Precious Bloodbr> Catholic Liturgy - Funeral Masses for a Suicide And More on Confession for RCIA Candidates
The Most Holy Sacrifice of the Mass - A Primer for Clueless Catholics (Part 1)
The Orthodox Divine Liturgy, the Roman Catholic Mass and the Anglican Eucharist...
Catholic Liturgy - Dramatic Readings at Mass (And More on Processions, and Extra Hosts)
Catholic Liturgy - Mass Intentions
Catholic Liturgy - Pre-recorded Music at Mass And More on Communion Services
Vatican: Matters to be observed or to be avoided regarding the Most Holy Eucharist (April 23, 2004)
POPE ISSUES APOSTOLIC LETTER ON THE SACRED LITURGY
Liturgy: Are Glass Chalices OK for Mass?
EUCHARIST: HOLY MEAL

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