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To: Mrs. Don-o

Geo weighed wrote about it

The Vatican issued humanae vitae. The account of the Vatican siding with dissidents is not quite correct

And the Vatican certainly did not dissent with the very teaching it produced and which it still publishes and teaches. JPII a theology of the body draws on humanae vitae and it is widely accepted in groups obedient with the vatican


7 posted on 05/09/2015 5:17:26 PM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne; Arthur McGowan
"Geo weighed wrote about it"

I'm sorry. Is this a typo? Who's this?

What I heard (and this is vague in my memory, I'm pretty sure it was Tom Bethell but it might have been James Hitchcock) is that there were guys in the Vatican who effectively prevented the dissidents from being booted. It's not that these clerical judaspriests came right out and said "We hate Humanae Vitae." They just said, "Wait now, do nothing in haste. We need more dialogue, we need a gradual pastoral approach, Fr. Curran here is not a bad man, he's just asking important questions. The faculty of Theology has to have the academic freedom to engage in scholarly debate..." etc. etc.

Smiley-face heresy.

And what happened for 45 straight years after that? Silence. Contraception was a dead letter. In 5,000-7,000 Masses I have attended, I have never once heard contraception discussed or admonished against as a moral problem. Not once sentence, not one phrase, not one word.

If our good little orthodox RCIA team didn't bring it up in one lesson per year to our little flock of catechumens, it would never be brought up at all.

(Arthur? Are you there?)

8 posted on 05/09/2015 5:33:00 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Fight all error, and do it with good humor, patience, kindness and love. -St. John Cantius)
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