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1 posted on 04/30/2015 8:38:29 AM PDT by cleghornboy
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To: cleghornboy

Yeah, except economic liberty.

And free speech (the Left want to shut it down any way it can, and they are trying to do it one nibble at a time).


2 posted on 04/30/2015 8:40:42 AM PDT by Steely Tom (Vote GOP for A Slower Handbasket)
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To: cleghornboy

Oral arguments, eh?


3 posted on 04/30/2015 8:45:31 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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“After losing in state after state, the homosexual movement realized that it could never overturn these amendments legitimately.”

They realized that they couldn’t overturn these amendments legitimately within the time frame they wished them to be overturned.

The problem is that our side saw those amendments pass with such success that many seem to think that the popular vote would remain static and unchanging on the issue. But it didn’t, as is easily seen when you compare the actual votes between states and the years in which they passed. In my opinion if the trend continues, there won’t be a state in the union that won’t repeal any marriage amendment that remains within 20 years by popular vote. The ones that only passed their amendments in the 50% ranges in the middle of the last decade wouldn’t be able to pass them again now.

Freegards


6 posted on 04/30/2015 8:51:11 AM PDT by Ransomed
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[[So broad an interpretation of liberty as to justify every perversion.]]

It is boiling down to one of two points- either they will allow all perversions by this vote, OR they will legislate from the bench and approve of one perversion over the other sexually deviant perversions- picking and choosing which perversions they like and don’t like

Their whole argument for why gay marriage should be allowed boils down to the claim that ‘gay people aren’t afforded the dignity ‘they deserve’ that marriage affords heterosexuals”- They are whining about society looking down on them just because they prefer a ‘different type of sex’, and they are DEMANDING that society stop looking on them as deviant

IF this is true, then ANY sexually perverted class of people can make the same damn claim

But of course the courts will choose the perversion known as homosexuality, and declare it is no longer a perversion, while still deeming the other perverted forms of sex as deviant

We are going to witness the courts declare homosexuality is to no longer be declared immoral and deviant, when EVERYONE KNOWS it is STILL immoral and deviant!

The gay agenda has gotten away with the tactic of ‘oh poor us, all we want is love, and you bullies are preventing it and we feel like lower class people because of it’ They have managed to scam the US into thinking it’s not immoral any longer- and that they are just poor victims of discrimination- yet they will be quick to turn around and declare all the other perversions immoral because they no longer want to be lumped together with those perversions


9 posted on 04/30/2015 10:26:19 AM PDT by Bob434
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[[The Fourteenth Amendment says: No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States;]]

Since when did deviant sexual practices become privileges afforded to us?

[[nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law;]]

And this covers sexual deviancy how again? “Liberty”? The liberty to pursue whatever they like? How about people that like corpses? Shall their ‘liberty’ be denied them if the gaystapo are claiming their ‘liberty’ is being denied them?

we are NEVER at liberty to do whatever we want whenever we want- society has ALWAYS restricted liberties- especially when it comes to immoral practices

[[“equal protection”]]

They are claiming ‘equal protection’ gives them the right to have government sanctioned marriages? Really? Does our country, or any other country for that matter, as a whole, give the same ‘“equal protection” to pedophiles, people who have sex with animals, people who want to marry their mothers, fathers, brothers, sisters? To people who want to marry their cars?

How did it all of a sudden become a case where homosexuality is ‘less deviant than’ the OTHER DEVIANT sexual practices? a DEVIANT sexual practices is an immoral violation of the natural course of sexual reproduction acts- and homosexual acts certainly qualify as DEVIANT sexual practice- when did the act of homosexuality begin producing offspring? It NEVER did and it NEVER will, and therefore it is STILL a DEVIANT act that violates the natural course of things

[[They argue that “gays” are not allowed to marry the ones they love, but heterosexuals are.]]

Really? Shall we say “Cry us a river here?”- neither are bestiality practitioners, pedophiles, siblings, close relatives, necromancers, allowed to ‘marry the ones they love’ etc etc etc- Sorry, but the act of homosexuality is STILL an immoral sexually DEVIANT practice- Sorry that you don’t accept that- but society still does!

[[The answer to their “equal protection” argument is simple: Under the law, every person can only marry someone of the opposite sex. The marriage laws apply to every person equally.]]

PRECISELY- EVERYONE MUST meet a certain criteria- we are ALL subjected to the same criteria- a 50 year father ol or mother or aunt is NOT allowed to marry their 10 year old daughter or son or niece or nephew because they do NOT met the criteria of marriage which stipulates that close relatives, and people below certain ages, are not allowed to marry

Dear Lord I hope TRUTH prevails in the SC ruling, and that the nonsense that gay people are being treated unfairly is finally put to rest for good!- But I have a sinking suspicion that it wont considering the extreme bias/agenda that the liberal justices have demonstrated in clear violation of their oath to uphold the rule of law


10 posted on 04/30/2015 10:54:19 AM PDT by Bob434
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To: cleghornboy

Your commentary pretty well sums up what I’ve been arguing all along- That gay marriage is the door through which ALL sexual perversions will be legitimized, and through which the bludgeoning of Christians will begin- You are correct, this is a moral outrage of the highest order, and it WILL usher in persecution of the religious right-

[[When moral liberty is detached from the Natural Law and the Eternal Divine Law, it soon degenerates into license.]]

That statement alone sums up this whole issue- The gay agenda is seeking license to practice their sin openly and without restrictions AND to be rewarded for it while at the same time preventing those who still hold to moral values from expressing and acting upon those moral values

to declassify homosexuality as immoral and deviant, is to pave the path for all the other deviant sexual practices to be declassified as such as well- That is what is at stake in this marriage issue, and that is why those of morals have always fought so hard to preserve the sanctity of marriage, NOT just because it’s a religious belief we stand strongly for, BUT ALSO because we love our society, and do not wish to see it devolve into the lawless cesspool of sexual immorality IS going to IF gay people are allowed to marry at the national level- We are already losing the battle in many states- and we are seeing the devastation is is brining already- with gay people suing people out of business, intimidating them, openly bullying them- maligning them etc (It sure is Funny though how the Christians that are attacked, bullied, put out of business, threatened etc, are prevented rom declaring ‘emotional distress and suffering’ - but gay people can claim ‘emotional suffering’ because someone didn’t bake them a cake?)- but now we are on the verge of losing it at a national federal level as well

Let’s also not forget that the UN, an organization that our left in this country wish us to become subjects to, are trying to get ‘hate speech’ listed as a crime- and you know that they will determine Christians who speak out against gay lifestyle, are committing criminal acts by committing ‘hate crimes/hate speech’, and our country wishes to make it a crime to take a child to ‘reparative therapy’ if the child says he or she is gay- some states already forbid it- so parents can no longer intervening I n their kid’s lives to prevent them from making such a tragic destructive lifestyle

Persecution IS here- it’s already happening, but with this ruling, it IS going to get much much worse


11 posted on 04/30/2015 11:21:56 AM PDT by Bob434
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