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To: Campion

“Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches teach that the bread and cup are Christ’s literal body and blood offered on their altars and that He is continually suffering for sin.”
‘The underlined portion is a flat-out lie.’

I have a problem with that as well. I have never been taught in school, or heard at Mass that Jesus is being crucified again and again. No practicing Catholic that I know of has said that or even alluded to it.

No Priest, Nun, or Sunday School teacher has ever told me that salvation is by anything other than faith in the finished work of Christ.

Do we confess our sin or Glorify God with our life to build up IOU’s so that St. Peter will open the Golden Gates into Heaven? Not at all. It’s called developing and perpetuating a relationship with the Lord Jesus Christ.


14 posted on 04/15/2015 12:50:36 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
“Roman Catholic and Orthodox churches teach that the bread and cup are Christ’s literal body and blood offered on their altars and that He is continually suffering for sin.” ‘The underlined portion is a flat-out lie.’

I have a problem with that as well. I have never been taught in school, or heard at Mass that Jesus is being crucified again and again. No practicing Catholic that I know of has said that or even alluded to it. No Priest, Nun, or Sunday School teacher has ever told me that salvation is by anything other than faith in the finished work of Christ.

Here is what your Catechism says:

    1364 In the New Testament, the memorial takes on new meaning. When the Church celebrates the Eucharist, she commemorates Christ’s Passover, and it is made present: the sacrifice Christ offered once for all on the cross remains ever present.185 “As often as the sacrifice of the Cross by which ‘Christ our Pasch has been sacrificed’ is celebrated on the altar, the work of our redemption is carried out.”186 (611, 1085)

    1365 Because it is the memorial of Christ’s Passover, the Eucharist is also a sacrifice. The sacrificial character of the Eucharist is manifested in the very words of institution: “This is my body which is given for you” and “This cup which is poured out for you is the New Covenant in my blood.”187 In the Eucharist Christ gives us the very body which he gave up for us on the cross, the very blood which he “poured out for many for the forgiveness of sins.”188 (2100, 1846)

    1366 The Eucharist is thus a sacrifice because it re-presents (makes present) the sacrifice of the cross, because it is its memorial and because it applies its fruit: (613)

    [Christ], our Lord and God, was once and for all to offer himself to God the Father by his death on the altar of the cross, to accomplish there an everlasting redemption. But because his priesthood was not to end with his death, at the Last Supper “on the night when he was betrayed,” [he wanted] to leave to his beloved spouse the Church a visible sacrifice (as the nature of man demands) by which the bloody sacrifice which he was to accomplish once for all on the cross would be re-presented, its memory perpetuated until the end of the world, and its salutary power be applied to the forgiveness of the sins we daily commit.189

    1367 The sacrifice of Christ and the sacrifice of the Eucharist are one single sacrifice: “The victim is one and the same: the same now offers through the ministry of priests, who then offered himself on the cross; only the manner of offering is different.” “And since in this divine sacrifice which is celebrated in the Mass, the same Christ who offered himself once in a bloody manner on the altar of the cross is contained and offered in an unbloody manner... this sacrifice is truly propitiatory.”190 (1545)

    1368 The Eucharist is also the sacrifice of the Church. The Church which is the Body of Christ participates in the offering of her Head. With him, she herself is offered whole and entire. She unites herself to his intercession with the Father for all men. In the Eucharist the sacrifice of Christ becomes also the sacrifice of the members of his Body. The lives of the faithful, their praise, sufferings, prayer, and work, are united with those of Christ and with his total offering, and so acquire a new value. Christ’s sacrifice present on the altar makes it possible for all generations of Christians to be united with his offering. (618, 2031, 1109) http://www.usccb.org/beliefs-and-teachings/what-we-believe/catechism/catechism-of-the-catholic-church/epub/index.cfm

Can you understand why someone would think Catholics believe "Christ’s literal body and blood offered on their altars and that He is continually suffering for sin.”?

33 posted on 04/15/2015 11:58:51 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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