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Anti-Kasper Book Receives Church In Poland’s Official Endorsement [Catholic Caucus]
Mundabor's Blog ^ | 4/07/15 | Mundabor

Posted on 04/07/2015 4:52:19 PM PDT by ebb tide

“Remaining in the Truth of Christ”, the “five Cardinals' book” already the object of the famous “raid” at the Vatican (where manipulation, theft, and lies are nowadays called “mercy”) is now available in the Polish version, and carries the endorsement of the Polish Bishop's Conference.

One cannot imagine many warning shots clearer and louder than this one. Instead of expressing themselves in favour of the Sacrament in single statements, the Polish Bishops endorse the entire book, en bloc.

Let us skip the niceties here, and let us say straight who the addressee of the endorsement is: the Unholy Father himself, as he lives and… eats. It is not really thinkable that the Bishops would make such a statement merely to slap a couple of German prelates. Rather, they are putting their very face on the line, and stating clearly that they are compelled to defend Christ's teaching wherever the attack may come from.

It would be beautiful if other Bishops' Conferences would follow the example, but I doubt there will be any other takers. In the chaotic hours after the homosexual Relatio post disceptationem the Poles were exemplary, other Western Bishops' Conferences certainly weren't.

It is good that these warnings are sent. Si vis pacem, para bellum. Those within the Church who are ready to fight and to fight hard – and to fight hard against the Pope, if needs be – can do nothing better than to say it out loud, and let whoever has ears to hear.

The other way – the naive hope that there is no need for such warnings, because they could be interpreted as hostile to the Unholy Father; who, being a nice chap, doesn't want to do anything naughty anyway… – only emboldens the enemy; and yes, I am talking of Francis. I do not think the Polish bishops have many illusions as to who the enemy is. They do not say it openly, of course, but it's clear enough.

Francis understands very well the universal language of a – metaphorical – punch on the nose. Last October he showed how ready he was to backpedal, though not without some bitching to let us know how cross he was. But the bitching was merely the petty revenge of the bad loser: in the end he knew what he had to do, and he caved in to the pressure because he immediately realised he could not afford a massive conflict with his own bishop.

This, my friends, is the way. Those prelates who still care for their own salvation must keep sending warnings, and at the same time put their face on the line: if given the choice between remaining in the truth of Christ and selling out to the lies of Francis, they won't choose Francis.


TOPICS: Apologetics; Catholic; Moral Issues; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: francis; poland; sinnod
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1 posted on 04/07/2015 4:52:19 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

I have a copy of “Remaining in the Truth of Christ” and recommend it highly. Not that my recommendation is worth anything, but still, it’s a very good book.


2 posted on 04/07/2015 4:55:33 PM PDT by Legatus (I think, therefore you're out of your mind)
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To: ebb tide

Sorry, but there’s so much “inside baseball,” er, inside the Catholic Church, it’s hard for a prod to figure out what this means.


3 posted on 04/07/2015 5:01:03 PM PDT by colorado tanker
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To: ebb tide
"Anti-Kasper Book Receives Church In Poland’s Official Endorsement..."

OK... Since I'm not a Catholic I am assuming we're not referring to Kasper the Friendly Ghost here. Any of you out there want to give me the short version? I was raised Lutheran which I have heard referred to as Catholic Light but have not heard of this referenced.

4 posted on 04/07/2015 5:06:04 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: colorado tanker
A cradle Catholic - I'm at a loss here, as well, FRiend.

But I have to say, I have a sinking feeling since the accession of Francis to the Papacy.


5 posted on 04/07/2015 5:07:14 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in Battle!)
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To: colorado tanker

I’m with you brother... HUH?


6 posted on 04/07/2015 5:09:48 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Desron13

Kasper is the Cardinal of the German Bishops. He is a Leftist Intellectual and is in serious need of excommunication.


7 posted on 04/07/2015 5:10:14 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: Desron13
Any of you out there want to give me the short version?

Well you're in a caucus thread so we're all using our secret decoder rings. But the short answer is there's this yahoo named Kasper who wrote a book which promotes changing the teaching of the Catholic Church as regards the indissolubility of marriage that the Pope went bananas for, so five other cardinals and four theologians wrote a response to Kasper's book defending the traditional doctrine.

8 posted on 04/07/2015 5:11:47 PM PDT by Legatus (I think, therefore you're out of your mind)
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To: Desron13

What they are saying is that the Polish Bishops have approved this book as a direct slap down of the German Cardinal Kasper and the Pope himself who is steeped in Communist New Church nonsense.

They are putting the Pope and Leftist Heretic Cardinals and Bishops on notice that they will not stand for changes in the Church and it is they, not the Polish Bishops who will be out.


9 posted on 04/07/2015 5:13:42 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: ebb tide
"Si vis pacem, para bellum"

If you want peace, prepare for war.

Back atcha...

"sic semper tyrannis"

"thus always to tyrants"

10 posted on 04/07/2015 5:14:46 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: ConorMacNessa; Desron13; colorado tanker

‘Kasper’ appears to be Walter Kasper, a retired German Cardinal and Francis’ favorite theologian. Think Karl Rove to GW Bush.

This article could shed some light on the issue:

http://ncronline.org/news/vatican/cardinal-walter-kasper-popes-theologian-reveals-brains-behind-francis-heart


11 posted on 04/07/2015 5:17:13 PM PDT by Pelham (The refusal to deport is defacto amnesty)
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To: Jim from C-Town
"They are putting the Pope and Leftist Heretic Cardinals and Bishops on notice that they will not stand for changes in the Church and it is they, not the Polish Bishops who will be out."

Cool, I like that sentiment. Could they have made it any more complicated and convoluted? I also like puzzles.

12 posted on 04/07/2015 5:18:47 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Legatus
"...the short answer is there's this yahoo named Kasper who wrote a book which promotes changing the teaching of the Catholic Church as regards the indissolubility of marriage that the Pope went bananas for, so five other cardinals and four theologians wrote a response to Kasper's book defending the traditional doctrine."

Sounds like the US Congress.

13 posted on 04/07/2015 5:32:10 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: Pelham
Thanks very much for the link. It references Cardinal Kasper's vision of Vatican II as a model for what he hopes will happen this fall and beyond.

What happened at Vatican II a half century ago is, in my view, a great source of discord and error in today's Catholic Church. I feel as though I'm in a similar position with respect to my Church as I am with respect to my Nation:

I want my Nation back!
I want my Church back!


"Dia shábháil ar fad anseo!"

14 posted on 04/07/2015 5:33:00 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Michael the Archangel, defend us in Battle!)
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To: Jim from C-Town
Thanks for the clarification. Makes perfect sense now.
15 posted on 04/07/2015 5:35:10 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: ebb tide
Si vis pacem, para bellum

Vero

16 posted on 04/07/2015 5:37:31 PM PDT by markomalley (Nothing emboldens the wicked so greatly as the lack of courage on the part of the good -- Leo XIII)
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To: Desron13
legatus pro praetore
17 posted on 04/07/2015 5:41:04 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: markomalley
eagre
18 posted on 04/07/2015 5:46:53 PM PDT by Desron13
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To: markomalley

Absolutely. Time to gird the loins.


19 posted on 04/07/2015 6:05:55 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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