N00bie kid if the author doesn’t think we are already living in tribulation in this country, and the world at large, when does he think it will start ???
See the website of the “Pre-Trib Research Group” headed by Dr. Thomas Ice! This is an excellent resource! There are some good pastors listed there, who contribute their research papers every year, at their annual meetings in Dallas.
Stretching things a bit ...
Wake up folks! Erdogan has declared himself “god” do you have to see him sacrifice a pig in the Temple before you believe we’re in it? Apostasy is rampant in the church universal with gay marriage and pro abortion, screwed up doctrine that says you can have your “best life” now. Where is the Cross of Christ preached, believed and, more importantly, lived??? Pretrib is just an excuse to escape persecution - especially for Americans who believe they are the only Christians that matter in the world and the world revolves around them. Those recently martyred in the middle east aren’t looking for a pretrib rapture. They’re looking for a Crown of Life.
I see the events something like this chronologically: 3.5 year tribulation. Followed by “rapture” (Revelation 7, after the sealing of the 144k). Followed by 3.5 year wrath of God on whoever is left other than the 144k.
2 Thes 2:3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
I hardly think that these verses make the case for a pre-trib rapture. I don’t find the case in the bible for two “parusias”, but a single event. There will not be two returns of the Lord, but one. That will be when the Wrath of the Lord is executed, and we (those that are alive) will meet him in the air at that time.
The woman is Gods Church. She is taken to a place in the wilderness, not Heaven.
The Tribulation is 42 months.
Well, the important thing is not when the interpretation came into existence, but whether or not it is the correct interpretation.
For the record, I side with the pre-trib rapture guys.
End Times Ping
“This means that the pre-tribulational rapture was positively taught no later than the early 7th century.”
It still flatly contradicts the Bible, so it doesn’t really matter. You can find heretical writings just as old as the oldest NT manuscripts, but they are still heretical.
The timing of the Rapture is found in that fact, not any New Testament verse.
Personally I can not find scripture to settle the issue.. I look at the suffering of saints in the scriptures and through the ages and wonder why we should think that a 'special" generation would be spared that
It is difficult to see the beheadings and persecution happing to our brothers and sisters and to think that somehow it could happen to us...Will we stand strong? Would we hold our testimony? ..It is much nicer to think we will be taken out of it..
I pray for the courage to withstand a persecution should it come
Extra-Biblical Evidence for the Pre-Trib Rapture
At least he sees it's extra-biblical.