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To: CynicalBear

Were you there?

The Church came before the gospels. Jesus didn’t say go forth and write. John got his orders and did he not say there were many other things Christ did that the world couldn’t contain the books had they been written?

Do you use the bible or torah? How’d you get that bible?

Do me a favor, go read the fathers... Those who were actually taught by them. But I bet you know more than they do as well... or will ask for proof.

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46 posted on 03/25/2015 5:01:27 PM PDT by AliVeritas (Pray/Penance. Isa 5:18-21,10:1-3 "Tempus faciendi, Domine, dissipaverunt legem tuam")
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To: AliVeritas
>>The Church came before the gospels.<<

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

Now, prove that the apostles taught the assumption of Mary and the requirement to believe it.

>>Jesus didn’t say go forth and write.<<

Revelation 1:19 Write, therefore, what you have seen, what is now and what will take place later.

>>John got his orders and did he not say there were many other things Christ did that the world couldn’t contain the books had they been written?<<

1 John 5:13 These things I have written to you who believe in the name of the Son of God, so that you may know that you have eternal life.

>>Those who were actually taught by them.<<

The seven churches written to in Revelation are an indication of how fast they can go apostate. Six of the seven were at risk of being rejected by Christ. Not good odds on those "church fathers".

47 posted on 03/25/2015 5:17:33 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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