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To: Mrs. Don-o
no "prophet," no Pope, no Synod or Council ---- has the authority to deny or abolish doctrines which have come down to us from the Apostles.

"The Apostles" being the current "magisterium," which dictates what the teachings of the church are, right?

NONE of the original apostles even hinted at the practice of the "dulia" directed a Mary in all of their teachings and writings; if they did, we would have gotten a book full about that. And yet, here it is, in every Roman Church.

45 posted on 03/25/2015 4:09:01 PM PDT by fwdude (The last time the GOP ran an "extremist," Reagan won 44 states.)
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To: fwdude
You are not taking what the Evangelist John tells us into full consideration. John says, repeatedly, that Jesus taught a whole LOT more than what was written in the texts we now know as the New Testament.

John 20:30
"Many other signs also did Jesus in the sight of his disciples, which are not written in this book."

John 21:25
"But there are also many other things which Jesus did; which, if they were written every one, the world itself, I think, would not be able to contain the books that should be written."

2 John 1:12
"Though I have much to write to you, I would rather not use paper and ink. Instead I hope to come to you and talk face to face, so that our joy may be complete."

3 John 1:13-14
"I had much to write to you, but I would rather not write with pen and ink. I hope to see you soon, and we will talk face to face."

All that, plus Jesus' own assurance:

John 16:13
But when he, the Spirit of truth, is come, he will teach you all truth. For he shall not speak of himself; but what things soever he shall hear, he shall speak; and the things that are to come, he shall shew you.

At one time I, myself, was strangely incurious abut all this. It's only in the last few years that I became more analytical about it, and realized how important it is to grasp the essential, Biblical view that we have NOT been given just a book. As if, "For God so loved the world, that He sent a book." We have been given a Church, which is a centuries-spanning, millennia-spanning, culture, language and civilizations-spanning reality of God's people united. I don't just mean this in a Western jurisdictional sense ("Rome") I mean it in a sense of a powerful hermeneutic of continuity.

It's 10:20, past my bedtime.

God night, fwdude, and God bless you.

52 posted on 03/25/2015 7:20:37 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("Love rejoices not in evil, but rejoices in the truth." 1 Corinthians 13:6)
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To: fwdude
We honor Mary. The Bible says, "Give honor to whom honor is due." And "Honor your father and your mother."

Every possible gradation or degree of honor is not catalogued in the Bible. Yet the honor given to Mary is prefigured in the Bible:


1 Kings 2:18-20
When Bathsheba went to King Solomon to speak to him for Adonijah, the king stood up to meet her, bowed down to her and sat down on his throne. He had a throne brought for the king’s mother, and she sat down at his right hand.

“I have one small request to make of you,” she said. “Do not refuse me.”

The king replied, “Make it, my mother; I will not refuse you.”


An example of the honor it was proper for a King to show the Queen Mother.

And Mary herself prophesied: "All generations will call me Blessed." .

58 posted on 07/14/2015 1:45:56 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (May the Lord bless you and keep you, may He turn to you His countenance and give you peace.)
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