Posted on 03/22/2015 7:55:18 AM PDT by CHRISTIAN DIARIST
Ditto. Not to mention that Scripture also commands generosity toward the poor - the Christian Diarist will doubtless want government to also enforce that aspect of Biblical morality.
Only to the degree that Christians have been imbued with libertarian principles as exampled in our founding documents, and as demonstrated by our founding fathers (whether those Christians know it or not). Religion (in contrast to faith) is at it's core a form of control, which, at the core, makes every religion a form of government. No government wants to be limited and decentralized, because it necessarily thwarts the very thing it's made to do. The efficiency of control IS centralized and IS coercive.
So it is not natural for religion to adhere to the limits of libertarian thought, any more than any other governmental system. And IMHO, it is that libertarian strain in this country's founding that limits religion's coercive effect, and that I think, is of great merit.
In fact, I believe that traditional conservatives should like to see a country where states take a different approach to moral issues. This exercise in free will among individuals that could move from state to state would be the best way to demonstrate the benefits and advantages of a morally upright state/community.
That is perfectly said, and is in line with the precepts that founded this nation.
We would no doubt be surprised how many conservatives would be libertarians if it were not for the gay marriage and abortion issues.
Even though I have never met a gay libertarian it makes the party look bad because they do not believe it is an issue that should be decided by Government.
On the Christian issue any one who know the liberals know that a conservative is much more liberal in the biblical sense of the word than a liberal.
Liberalism has nothing to do with being a liberal giver.
Pope John Paul II said that “Freedom consists not in doing what we like, but in having the right to do what we ought.”
How does a Libertarian form of government conflict with that? Morality cannot be legislated, it must come from within the individual.
Libertarians are useful idiots. They have the advantage of knowing their ideas have never been used and probably never will.
Libertarian ideas are in use in many lawless societies that are run by gangs, warlords, private armies etc, such as Liberia and Sierra Leone. Though perhaps Liberians would be surprised to discover that libertarians are striving to build the same kind of society in America.
Christians vote, and they cannot vote for gay marriage and abortion and all the Sodom and Gomorrah morality of the libertarians.
Christians must vote as Christian.
True Christians are social conservatives, and they vote as such, they do not support electing representatives that will give us Sodom and Gomorrah.
Libertarians are no different from the Dems on matters that mean the most to conservative Christians. Dems, remember, the ones who tried to vote God out in their convention.
Short answer NO!
Is libertarianism compatible with what the Bible teaches about a hedonist life style, sodomy, and atheism? Yes.
To hedonists, Sodomites, and atheists, the Dems, of course, come first, but with the Libertarian party a close second.
Liberaltarians routinely patrol FR, never revealing that’s what they are, subversively putting in their licks for the most anti-social conservative candidates possible in every election.
Things are going good. My excitement about Ted Cruz has brought me back. How have things been since I’ve been gone?
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If the government and its anti-family legislation were out of the way, people would naturally form associations and many of them will be religious in nature. Pretty soon abortion and public display of sodomy will be punished by customary laws in nearly every legislation. This is how libertarianism and conservatism ARE compatible.
When propagandists of either description use selective libertarian doctrines in the environment where he government is telling people how to live their lives from womb to tomb, the outcomes are grotesque, but that is not strictly libertarianism’s fault.
That and Drug legalization.
There is no such thing as little l big l libertarians, there are only libertarians.
No Christian should support a libertarian, at any level of government.
Using the political system to destroy conservatism by electing social liberals/libertarians, is wrong, whether you are voting for a mayor, or state legislator, or governor, or President.
The constitution was not written to give us abortion and gay marriage and porn, and child molesting, 1780 Americans would be lynching libertarians, not voting for their leftist agenda.
like to stay and chat but i gotta go back to work...
here is what i have to say..
i more than likely believe in the same things you do, down to the issue...
i just do not believe, under penalty of law, that the government should FORCE me into acting the way you want me to act..under threat of imprisonment...
and it is nothing more than that
A Christian or American that votes for a politician who believes that abortion and gay marriage are rights, is deeply confused.
To walk out of church and then vote against the conservative to represent you in government, and instead vote for the pro-abortion/proporn/progay marriage/etc libertarian to represent you and decide American law and culture and society, is absurd.
I would rather be religious in traditional America, under a social conservative government, pre-1960s, before we became so libertarian.
It worked pretty well before the 1960s.
We did fine without abortion and gay marriage, for instance.
No kidding, some of them will carry on a flame war for hundreds of posts, all the time denying that they are arguing for what they are arguing for.
It is like trying to pin down mercury with your thumb.
True libertarians do support abortion.
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