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To: Alex Murphy; marshmallow
"What the "debate" at the most recent synod did was to flush out the real beliefs of many cardinals. Those who debated in favor of heterodox positions clearly did so because they personally believed them, not as some kind of academic exercise."

That's a very interesting comment, Alex. That's worth thinking about.

Here's something else I've noticed. In his book Silencio y Palabra (Silence and Word) Bergoglio said that before he will organize us around the “issues” he will ask us to reflect by "keeping silence, praying and humbling ourselves". He especially warned that evil presents itself as good or "the bad spirit comes in the guise of an angel."

The way to deal with such Spirit is not to fight it head on, he says, because only God can defeat such a Power. He tells us, "Be gentle! The evil ones will take that for weakness... The devil emboldened will show himself and his true intentions, no longer disguised as an angel of light but boldly and shamelessly."

Did this not happen at the extraordinary synod in October 2014 when the pope was much criticized by us conservatives for not "speaking up" against falsehoods?

His disciplined silence allowed over the next few months that several prominent episcopal "angels of compassion and light" ---- the rich, proud leftists like Kasper, Marx, Wuerl, Forte, Baldisseri ---- were exposed by their own deeds and words to be thieves, liars, and racists.

They're doing what strutting bullies so often do: they're digging their graves with their mouths. To get the modus operandi, watch a couple of old episodes of Columbo (I loved Peter Falk).

According to Cardinal George Pell, three-fourths of the synod's bishops expressed objections to the manipulated draft relatio when it came up for discussion on the floor. The fake relatio actually ignited the conservatives.

Is this what Pope Francis had in mind? I don't know, but willy-nilly, by bold design or by bumbling, it's happening. If not what Francis had in mind, it may be what the Holy Spirit had in mind.

This year I predict the Bad Guys, who have in their positions of power have been lured into overplaying their hands, are going to be smacked down hard: not by Pope Francis himself, maybe, but by somebody better: the Poles, the African bishops and cardinals.

Watch. We'll see. I am praying for it

13 posted on 03/20/2015 3:03:21 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o ("If they refuse to listen even to the Church, treat them as you would a pagan or a tax collector.")
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To: Mrs. Don-o
Pope Francis: Reckless Blabbermouth or Sophisticated Strategist?

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Perhaps neither. Perhaps he is simply inspired by the grace of God.

14 posted on 03/20/2015 3:06:48 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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