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Pope wants to scrap centuries-old ban on priests marrying
The Daily Mail ^ | 3/12/2015 | Matt Roper

Posted on 03/12/2015 12:31:53 PM PDT by Legatus

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To: aMorePerfectUnion; All
"Wow! Moving in line with Scripture!"

I agree as evidenced by Mark 1:30 and 1 Titus 3:2, 4 and 5.

41 posted on 03/12/2015 1:24:16 PM PDT by Amendment10
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To: Legatus

The problem was the transfer of Church property. Compulsory clerical celibacy was implemented to stop the transfer of Church properties from father to son and it was also implemented to give the hierarchy more control over the clergy. I think in our current era we can allow for vocations in which priests can be married without placing in jeopardy Church properties just as the private sector does, just as the government does, just as other Churches do, including the Orthodox Church and other Catholic churches in Eastern Europe and the Middle East.


42 posted on 03/12/2015 1:25:07 PM PDT by Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

Starting in the 11th century Pope Gregory VII started to enforce celibacy. The demand for celibacy came from the masses who were tired of priests being more concerned about making money for the family or finding nice positions for the sons than tending the flock. I remember a history book about that the era. People would drive away what they saw as corrupt priests along with the real or fake wives.


43 posted on 03/12/2015 1:29:52 PM PDT by C19fan
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines

OK, so supposing we go ahead with this, what about the 400k or so priests who are currently serving? What will we do about paying for entire families to live in a rectory? What will we do about clerical divorce? Will we completely sever ties with the Orthodox and have married bishops? If not, where will we get our bishops, and what justification will we be able to use? What about bad PKs (priest’s kids), what do we do about their fathers?

Have you polled your local priests, are you ready for the vacuum that will hit us when thousands of them leave the Church or enter monastic life?


44 posted on 03/12/2015 1:31:39 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Trapped Behind Enemy Lines
Compulsory clerical celibacy was implemented to stop the transfer of Church properties from father to son

I think this is an urban legend. The "Church properties" didn't belong to the priest in the first place, nor do they now.

45 posted on 03/12/2015 1:38:11 PM PDT by Campion
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To: Campion
I think this is an urban legend

I agree, however, there was the issue of benefices.

46 posted on 03/12/2015 1:40:56 PM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: Legatus

I’d think many American dioceses couldn’t afford to maintain a priest with his family. The parishioners certainly might balk.


47 posted on 03/12/2015 1:51:39 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Interesting. I thought only the Roman Church was Catholic. I need to read up on this. Do you have a link or reference that lists all the 22 churches?


48 posted on 03/12/2015 1:55:46 PM PDT by seawolf101
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To: Hostage

Your terms are confusing me; the Orthodox Churches are not in union with Rome, though they are not considered heresies (as the Protestant Churches are). Orthodox Christians are permitted to receive Communion in Catholic churches because of this distinction.

Eastern Catholic churches are in union with Rome; they allow married priests already. The story is misleading, in that it should specify that celibacy in the Latin (Roman Catholic) rite may be reviewed.


49 posted on 03/12/2015 1:56:48 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Legatus

For the record, the Pope has already stated quite publicly that the issue of clerical celibacy is “on my agenda.” So this is hardly news, nor is it altogether unlikely.

http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com/2015/02/pope-francis-issue-of-married-priests.html


50 posted on 03/12/2015 2:30:31 PM PDT by NRx
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To: Legatus

Does happen about the Eastern Rite Catholics.


51 posted on 03/12/2015 2:33:46 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: rightwingintelligentsia

Both Orthodox and Eastern Rite Catholic Priests are allowed to get married, but BEFORE the priest is ordained.


52 posted on 03/12/2015 2:35:52 PM PDT by Biggirl ("One Lord, one faith, one baptism" - Ephesians 4:5)
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To: fidelis
So, a British tabloid reveals that “a friend says”. THAT’S an authoritative source. Or not.

It is authoritative enough for fools.

53 posted on 03/12/2015 2:40:23 PM PDT by Slyfox (I tremble for my country when I reflect that God is just: that his justice cannot sleep for ever)
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To: Legatus

I think its a great move. The celibacy requirement has been an obvious driver in the Church’s boy-abusing problem.
Get rid of it.


54 posted on 03/12/2015 2:42:58 PM PDT by Dagnabitt (Loser in Life? No problem - Buy a Pit Bull. Now you're "tough".)
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To: Legatus

“Are the Orthodox recruiting?”

NO!


55 posted on 03/12/2015 2:46:40 PM PDT by Kolokotronis (Christ is Risen, and you, o death, are annihilated)
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To: FredZarguna; Arthur McGowan

Arthur has explained that this is NOT just a matter of discipline, but a matter strongly connected to doctrine. Perhaps he can explain this again.....


56 posted on 03/12/2015 2:50:31 PM PDT by piusv
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To: piusv

Unlikely to be convincing, since Christ himself selected married men.


57 posted on 03/12/2015 2:56:54 PM PDT by FredZarguna (O, Reason not the need.)
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To: Dagnabitt

Celebacy is the cause of homosexual child molestation?


58 posted on 03/12/2015 3:01:04 PM PDT by goodwithagun (My gun has killed fewer people than Ted Kennedy's car.)
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To: FredZarguna

I only know of one. Care to list the other married apostles?


59 posted on 03/12/2015 3:07:36 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: goodwithagun

Celibacy is NOT the cause of child molestation. Homosexuality is.


60 posted on 03/12/2015 3:08:34 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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