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To: RaceBannon

So nice to be able to put the Holy Spirit into convenient charts. I wonder if anyone knows what transpired in the disicples (Apostles) on the occasion of John 20:22, when He breathed on them and said, “Receive ye the Holy Ghost”? Do you suppose that they did?


9 posted on 03/06/2015 4:15:54 PM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Migraine
So nice to be able to put the Holy Spirit into convenient charts. I wonder if anyone knows what transpired in the disicples (Apostles) on the occasion of John 20:22, when He breathed on them and said, “Receive ye the Holy Ghost”? Do you suppose that they did?

Yes. Jesus said they had Him.

But there's a difference between receiving the Holy Spirit when you are saved, and being filled and given imbued with power from on high.

10 posted on 03/06/2015 4:27:12 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Migraine
Translating this verse is not so simple. A precise translation is as follows:

"And after saying this, He breathed^ into |them to begin new life|. And He says to them, "Certainly soon receive^^ Holy Spirit! Whose ever sins you* forgive~, they are being forgiven to them. Whose ever sins you* retain~, they stand retained**" (Jn. 20:22-23 APT)

Key:

^ = see Septuagint: Gen. 2:7; Ezek. 37:9 for the use of this Gk. verb εμφυσάω (emphusaoh)

| . . . | = understood from the meaning of εμφυσάω (emphusaoh)

* = second person plural; that is, corporately (not an individual determination)

~ = subjunctive

** = constative perfect

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I won't try here to expand on this, but this operation was not one of conferring the indwelt Holy Spirit as anticipating that operation that occurred on the day of Pentecost.

The translation is that from "The Gospels: A Precise Translation" which is freely available at Happy Heralds, Inc. home page (click here) where you may request a copy of the translation.

15 posted on 03/07/2015 2:37:10 AM PST by imardmd1 (Fiat Lux)
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