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To: NYer

I know this is the Catholic Caucus thread, but I read these threads with much interest. I hope it is OK to merely say that I wish my Methodist denomination had “confession” with our clergy. I think it is a wonderful tradition of the historic and Spirit led church. We are missing something important by not having it.

Oldplayer


6 posted on 03/01/2015 1:23:34 PM PST by oldplayer
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To: oldplayer
The words of absolution as so moving, too.

Catechism of the Catholic Church

 

1449 The formula of absolution used in the Latin Church expresses the essential elements of this sacrament: the Father of mercies is the source of all forgiveness. He effects the reconciliation of sinners through the Passover of his Son and the gift of his Spirit, through the prayer and ministry of the Church:

 

God, the Father of mercies,
through the death and the resurrection of his Son
has reconciled the world to himself
and sent the Holy Spirit among us
for the forgiveness of sins;
through the ministry of the Church
may God give you pardon and peace,
and I absolve you from your sins in the name of the Father, and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit.

 


8 posted on 03/01/2015 1:27:17 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: oldplayer
I think it is a wonderful tradition of the historic and Spirit led church.

Thank you for a kind remark and an open mind.

"The Case for Confession", audio.

28 posted on 03/01/2015 2:48:56 PM PST by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: oldplayer
I know this is the Catholic Caucus thread, but I read these threads with much interest.

Thank you very much for sharing this feedback.

I wish my Methodist denomination had “confession” with our clergy.

Confession is a Sacrament. Just as God empowered his priests to be instruments of forgiveness in the Old Testament, the God/man Jesus Christ delegated uthority to his New Testament ministers to act as mediators of reconciliation as well. Jesus made this remarkably clear in John 20:21-23:

Jesus said to them again, “Peace be with you. As the Father has sent me, even so I send you.” And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and said to them, “Receive the Holy Spirit. If you forgive the sins of any, they are forgiven; if you retain the sins of any, they are retained.”

Catholic priests trace their heritage back to Jesus Christ through the laying on of hands.

We are missing something important by not having it.

Agreed. It is not unusual for non-Catholics, including Jews, to go to Catholic confession. The priest may listen to their confessions but does not have the authority to absolve them of their sins.

41 posted on 03/01/2015 4:03:01 PM PST by NYer (Without justice - what else is the State but a great band of robbers? - St. Augustine)
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To: oldplayer
Thank you! Confession really is a wonderful gift!
God bless you!
51 posted on 03/01/2015 5:04:56 PM PST by Grateful2God (Oh dear Jesus, Oh merciful Jesus, Oh Jesus, son of Mary, have mercy on me. Amen.)
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To: oldplayer

Thank you, old player. I also think they are interesting discussions, with the caveat always that you don’t have to read something that is of no interest to you. Of course. As a Catholic convert, I love confession.


56 posted on 03/01/2015 6:09:24 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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