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Vatican May be Asked to Revoke Papal Bulls that Granted Explorers Right to Conquer New World..
National Post ^ | 2/10/15 | Canadian Press

Posted on 02/11/2015 6:17:01 AM PST by marshmallow

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To: marshmallow

Some people do indeed have way too much free time. We need a universal statute of limitations to deal with this kind of idiocy. If someone did someone else wrong, and it was more than 100 years ago, then the discussion belongs in a history book or some branch of academia where people are paid to debate about topics with no relevance to the real world as it currently exists.


41 posted on 02/11/2015 12:05:46 PM PST by NRx
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To: Elsie; arthurus

That’s a question for arthurus.


42 posted on 02/11/2015 12:24:46 PM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: miss marmelstein; Gamecock; RnMomof7; daniel1212; metmom; blue-duncan
You could always join ISIS if you feel that way. They really enjoy a good bout of Catholic-bashing.

It's not about Catholic bashing; it's about correcting the horrendous errors Rome continues to teach, and sadly, so many continue to believe. Oddly enough, If you read your catechism, you'll find that Catholics and Mohammedans are, according to Rome, the two "religions" that have God in common... so I find it odd that you would have me go join ISIS.

I have no desire to cut the heads off of Catholics; I would, instead, hope and pray that The Lord sees fit to open your heart to your need of Him... not Mary, not saints, not Purgatory, not works to earn salvation.... you need Christ and Him alone.

Funny. That'd make a good tagline.

Hoss

43 posted on 02/11/2015 1:14:50 PM PST by HossB86 (Christ, and Him alone.)
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To: miss marmelstein
So you’re turned off by the rise of Western Civilization and the human desire to explore the world? Personally, I’m proud of the Church’s achievements in science and exploration. There is a reason for the West’s “superiority” - unless you think the American Indian is the apex of culture, of course.

No. I'm turned off by your ignorance and your accusatory tone.
Your ignorance is what prompts you to think that since I left the RCC that I'm not a proper Christian. Your accusatory tone speaks for itself.

My decisions are my own. You assume overmuch about me and a great many things. If you dislike the things I post here...don't read them.

To conclude, this is not a reply in a conversation. I'm done with you.

44 posted on 02/11/2015 1:21:53 PM PST by Bloody Sam Roberts (Life and death are but temporary states. But Freedom endures forever.)
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To: marshmallow

The “Discovery bulls” were intended as a conscripting captured enemies (chiefly Muslims) into service of the Colonial governments, preventing them from “re-enlisting” in jihad against Christianity. Shamefully, they were used to justify the slavery of indigenous peoples.

But this is why there is no need to rescind them: they no longer have any force, and have already been superceded. This quest is about misrepresenting potentially scandalous documents out of context.


45 posted on 02/11/2015 1:34:47 PM PST by dangus
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To: grania; Alex Murphy
They are already discussing it! Does Jesus save aliens?
46 posted on 02/11/2015 1:36:03 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Rather thin-skinned for somebody who encompasses the word “bloody” in your moniker...


47 posted on 02/11/2015 1:36:41 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: miss marmelstein
You actually left the Church because of 500 year old Papal Bulls??

Why not? Y'all stay in because of 2000 year old imagined doctrines.

48 posted on 02/11/2015 2:14:37 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a minister of the Gospel like Captain Crunch is a Naval line officer.)
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To: Gamecock; grania
They are already discussing it! Does Jesus save aliens?

They've been discussing it for nearly a decade!
2006: Vatican Astronomer Says ET Could Phone Home
2007: Vatican Official Confirms the Existence of Extraterrestrials
2008: Vatican: It's OK to believe in aliens ("The extraterrestrial is my brother")
2009: Vatican Observatory examines theological implications of finding alien life
2009: Vatican looks to heavens for signs of alien life
2009: Vatican Seeks Signs of Alien Life... E.T. phone Rome!
2010: Aliens visiting the Vatican: UFO Landing site filmed
2010: Alleged Vatican Official Says Extraterrestrials Are Real
2010: Who's Behind the UFO Phenomenon? (from The Angelus: A Journal of Roman Catholic Tradition)
2013: Vatican preparing for 'savior' from outer space?
2014: Vatican scientists co-host conference on alien life forms

Related topic:
2004: Bush's Long-Range Space Initiative May Place Communities Millions of Miles from Earth and Grace

49 posted on 02/11/2015 2:22:31 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: marshmallow
Canada’s Truth and Reconciliation Commission is weighing whether to ask the Vatican to repeal the Papal Bulls of Discovery that granted 15th-century explorers the right to conquer the New World and the “heathen” aboriginals that called it home.

Granted them the right to take over the rest of the world?

And Catholicism STILL thinks it has say over the world and other people's souls.

And just what kind of chutzpah made the Catholic church think it had the right to tell others what they could and could not do in non-religious matters?

Who gave the RCC authority over the rest of the world to tell the other part of the world they could take it over?

50 posted on 02/11/2015 2:24:29 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: daniel1212
Well, is it anti-Catholic to disagree with a papal Bull or encyclical? Or interpret it?

Looks like it, dan.....

51 posted on 02/11/2015 2:26:47 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: miss marmelstein; daniel1212
Calling out the Bigot Brigade, are we?

That sounds like a judgmental, bigoted comment to me.

Name calling is just always so effective. It gives so much credibility to the name caller.

52 posted on 02/11/2015 2:28:05 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: dangus
But this is why there is no need to rescind them: they no longer have any force, and have already been superceded. This quest is about misrepresenting potentially scandalous documents out of context.

That's the coward's way of dealing with stuff.

It's the same as Catholics saying that the RCC does not need to ex-communicate someone like Kennedy officially because pro-abort politicians have already ex-communicated themselves.

It's simply an excuse for not manning up and taking some responsibility for something. It's weak and spineless.

53 posted on 02/11/2015 2:33:08 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Alex Murphy

Amazing. I am going to read some of that stuff....it’s too good to pass up!


54 posted on 02/11/2015 2:41:51 PM PST by grania
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To: miss marmelstein
You’re the one who alerted the usual gang, not me.

In response to your query as to when they were going to show up, as if it has not usually been due to the constant posting of article by RCs about their elitist church, and attacks on us.

Now back to the question. Is it anti-Catholic to disagree with a papal Bull or encyclical? Or interpret it?

55 posted on 02/11/2015 2:52:08 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212

If you have a problem with Catholics posting articles, why don’t you take it up with the owner?

Personally, I like these Papal Bulls. I think Europeans conquering the New World was a very good thing. As an American, I think you’d agree with that...or go back to your ancestors’ country.


56 posted on 02/11/2015 2:58:52 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: metmom

Met mom - based on your posting, I hope you will agree to go back to what ever hellhole you and your ancestors came from. My family came from both the Irish famine and the anti-Semitism of Poland. We’re happy to be here and thank God someone conquered the New World.


57 posted on 02/11/2015 3:02:40 PM PST by miss marmelstein
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To: Gamecock

They are already discussing it! Does Jesus save aliens?

https://www.google.com/search?q=vatican+astronomer+alien&rls=com.microsoft:en-US:IE-Address&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&sourceid=ie7&gws_rd=ssl


58 posted on 02/11/2015 3:54:55 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: miss marmelstein

I’m a bigot.

Mary is dead.

Dead saints can’t help with nobody’s prayers.

Novenas don’t work.


59 posted on 02/11/2015 3:55:50 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Alex Murphy

Thank you Discovery's H2 channel!!

...could it be...

60 posted on 02/11/2015 3:56:55 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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