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To: ebb tide; BlatherNaut; piusv; Legatus; Wyrd bið ful aræd; Arthur McGowan; NKP_Vet; nanetteclaret
What message should we take from this?

Does Pope Francis mean that once gender-re-assigning surgery has been performed, the re-asaigned person nay be married in the Church?

BTW, that is not a trick question. What is going on? If a Catholic woman is surgically altered to look (and somehow perform) as a man, is she-now-he a Catholic man with all the rights and privileges pertaining thereto?

Somebody RSVP.

5 posted on 01/26/2015 6:29:02 PM PST by Kenny Bunk
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To: Kenny Bunk

Maybe pope francis is transgender himself? Francis is a womans name too.


6 posted on 01/26/2015 6:39:51 PM PST by Deathtomarxists
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To: Kenny Bunk

This one leaves me stunned. I honestly don’t know what to say.

This Pope is like a marble rolling over a crooked floor. He rolls in any direction and seems to have no guiding principle whatsoever.


7 posted on 01/26/2015 6:39:53 PM PST by livius
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To: Kenny Bunk

The message you should take away is that it is not your position to judge. The time will come when we will all answer. A phrase that comes to mind: That which you do to the least of my brothers, you do unto me. Nothing more, nothing less. The Pope is saying ALL are welcome here. And, yes that includes sinners.


12 posted on 01/26/2015 6:52:21 PM PST by timlilje
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To: Kenny Bunk

Pope Francis does not care about making sense. He cares about being photographed hugging people.


21 posted on 01/26/2015 7:20:17 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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To: Kenny Bunk
What is going on? If a Catholic woman is surgically altered to look (and somehow perform) as a man, is she-now-he a Catholic man with all the rights and privileges pertaining thereto?

Since it's impossible to "surgically alter" chromosomes, it's impossible to change one's sex. The Pope met with a pair of lesbians posing as a normal couple.

23 posted on 01/26/2015 8:01:56 PM PST by BlatherNaut
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To: Kenny Bunk

“What message should we take from this? “

..that Diego could be a future Pope?

I was hoping you mackerel snappers would hold the line. I think you need a new Pope ASAP, and not Diego either.


26 posted on 01/26/2015 9:51:53 PM PST by Pelham (WWIII. Islam vs the West)
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To: Kenny Bunk

Guess she can become a priest. I read about a transexual who became a nun.


28 posted on 01/26/2015 10:16:31 PM PST by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Kenny Bunk

It is my understanding that since Marriage is a Sacrament in the Catholic Church it requires proper form, matter and intention. The proper matter would be a MAN and a WOMAN as designed by GOD. So, the Church should not allow them to get married and that is the answer you would get unequivocally before Vatican II. Now, with Francis at the helm, who the heck knows? Perhaps he’ll make some sort of exception in Church law along with communion for adulterers.


34 posted on 01/27/2015 2:35:51 AM PST by piusv
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To: Kenny Bunk

In answer to your question: I am now about 99% convinced that Pope Benedict XVI was forced to “retire” so that this guy could take over. The whole thing just stinks to high heaven (literally). This is probably why Bergolio refers to himself as “Bishop of Rome.” He knows he is not legit.


38 posted on 01/27/2015 6:30:30 AM PST by nanetteclaret (Unreconstructed "Elderly Kooky Type" Catholic Texan)
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To: Kenny Bunk; ebb tide

There’s not enough information in this article to determine exactly what was said to this confused person and the “wife”.

An embrace (a physical hug) is not the same thing as saying “way to go, now your marriage is valid”. Francis, being the “pastor” that he is and has carried over into his pontificate is surely going to embrace this poor soul along with any hurting soul. But this isn’t the same thing as approving of the sin.

And just because “he” said “I’m at peace now” doesn’t mean anything either. Maybe “he” actually had a good Confession with the Pope and realizes the error of “his” ways.

We just don’t know what was said. I’m no great fan of him anymore but I’m definitely going to wait until and unless he publicly says gay “marriage” is ok and/or gender reassignment surgery is “ok”. It literally must be that blunt for me to be concerned about the Papacy and the Church.

The Church has endured the likes of Borgia Popes in the past. I think she can endure a 21st century feel-good Jesuit.


39 posted on 01/27/2015 6:41:11 AM PST by FourtySeven (47)
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