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Rick Santorum unhappy with Pope Francis for ‘rabbits’ comment
Wahington Post ^ | January 22 | Justin Moyer

Posted on 01/22/2015 8:54:41 AM PST by Gamecock

Catholics are supposed to listen to the pope. Why? As explained in their church’s catechism: “For the Roman Pontiff, by reason of his office as Vicar of Christ, and as pastor of the entire Church has full, supreme, and universal power over the whole Church, a power which he can always exercise unhindered.”

That’s a pretty broad mandate.

But when Pope Francis starts cautioning Catholics against breeding “like rabbits,” some Catholics don’t like what they hear — including once and future Republican presidential contender Rick Santorum.

“The pope is the leader of the Catholic Church, and when he speaks as the leader of the Catholic Church, I’ll certainly pay attention,” Santorum said on “The Hugh Hewitt Show.” “But when he speaks in interviews, he’s giving his own opinions, which I certainly will listen to, but from my perspective, that doesn’t reflect the idea that people shouldn’t be fruitful and multiply.”

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1 posted on 01/22/2015 8:54:41 AM PST by Gamecock
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To: Alex Murphy; metmom; CynicalBear; Mark17

Watch out Rick, the Pope might punch you!


2 posted on 01/22/2015 8:57:16 AM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock

Did they poll random Catholics? What about that widow in Cedar Rapids or the truck driver in Miami?


3 posted on 01/22/2015 8:57:25 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Gamecock
Those rabbits all filled the coffers for many years.

I noticed it, too. Quite degrading.

4 posted on 01/22/2015 8:57:35 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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To: Gamecock
that people shouldn’t be fruitful and multiply.”

That's right. It's in the Bible, true?

Even us Evil Protestants are supposed to believe that. So how come the Pope don't?

5 posted on 01/22/2015 8:58:59 AM PST by Regulator
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To: Gamecock

This pope is an embarrassment. Maybe an Hispanic affirmative action choice, much like Obama? Hopefully the next pope can be chosen for his real qualifications to understand and lead the church, presuming there is one after this pope is done.


6 posted on 01/22/2015 9:00:15 AM PST by Reno89519 (For every illegal or H1B with a job, there's an American without one. Muslim = Nazi = Evil)
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To: Gamecock

He was probably directing that at people from places where it is awfully hard to feed, house and clothe a large family. Like New York, NJ, CT, Kenya...


7 posted on 01/22/2015 9:02:21 AM PST by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Reno89519

I am Catholic and my brother is a bishop (retired) in the Church.

He listed to me rail a bit, reminded me to respect the position of Pope (if not the Pope as a man) and that all this stuff he is saying is not remotely binding on Catholics.

The First Vatican Council taught that three conditions must be met in order for a pronouncement to be considered infallible:

1. The pope must speak ex cathedra (from the Chair of Peter) in his official capacity.
2. The decision must be binding on the whole Church.
3. It must be on a matter of faith or morals.

So, we can tell him to get stuffed on this and a host (no pun intended) of things -— e.g., socialist nonsense, global warming, etc.


8 posted on 01/22/2015 9:06:00 AM PST by TheThirdRuffian (RINOS like Romney, McCain, Christie are sure losers. No more!)
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To: Reno89519

He’s Italian, not Hispanic.


9 posted on 01/22/2015 9:06:37 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: Gamecock

Paraphrasing the old joke: Hey Pope, you don’t playa da game, you don’t makea da rules


10 posted on 01/22/2015 9:15:16 AM PST by almcbean
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To: TheThirdRuffian
It would seem that the whole world has gone stupid. Not you, I mean in general. The Pope, however poorly expressed was making the point that as human beings we need to use the self-control we have been gifted with. Given the timing and all those street children in the Philippines I gathered he was sending the message that being fruitful and multiply does not alleviate one of the responsibilities of taking care of your progeny. Look at all the fatherless kids in our country. I don't think it's much a stretch that we could end up with the same problem here some day. I don't think it will be next year, but it could happen here if people keep putting their own needs ahead of their children.
11 posted on 01/22/2015 9:15:25 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: TheThirdRuffian; Gamecock; metmom
I am Catholic and my brother is a bishop (retired) in the Church. He listed to me rail a bit, reminded me to respect the position of Pope (if not the Pope as a man) and that all this stuff he is saying is not remotely binding on Catholics.

"Not remotely binding", but still sufficiently mandatory to cause FR's contingent of überCatholics to label anyone a CINO or anti-Catholic for failing to heed it.

12 posted on 01/22/2015 9:19:54 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: Gamecock

Where’s my sweater vest ?


13 posted on 01/22/2015 9:22:36 AM PST by Eric in the Ozarks (Rip it out by the roots.)
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To: Gamecock

He’s just misunderstood, AGAIN!


14 posted on 01/22/2015 9:22:55 AM PST by Jonty30 (What Islam and secularism have in common is that they are both death cults)
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To: Jonty30

http://www.ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=11511


15 posted on 01/22/2015 9:27:04 AM PST by defconw (If not now, WHEN?)
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To: Sacajaweau

Yes it is degrading. It plays into the idea that animals and humans are somehow equal in the eyes of God which of course is blasphemous if you consider that humans are created in God’s image.

Furthermore it is a comment that displays a liberal ideology that does not show respect for procreation within the sanctity of a sacramental marriage.

At best and hopefully most likely they are carelessly chosen words that allow him to garner attention as “edgy” and “relatable” pope who can relate to the “common” man unlike his intellectual predecessor, in this context the word common is not complimentary. At its worst, the comment gives one a sense of his social values especially considering the mayhem surrounding the synod for the family.


16 posted on 01/22/2015 9:29:35 AM PST by longfellowsmuse (last of the living nomads)
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To: Alex Murphy


“Not remotely binding”, but still sufficiently mandatory to cause FR’s contingent of überCatholics to label anyone a CINO or anti-Catholic for failing to heed it.”

Yeah, buddy! Phew! I didn’t think ANYBODY else was noticing those “überCatholics” following Frank over the cliff like the good little lemmings they are! Sure am glad you pointed that out! Heck, they’re probably not even aware that sweater vest man was inadvertently pointing out that Frank isn’t always acting as God’s mouth. I’d always thought Free Republic was comprised of fairly intelligent individuals, but when it comes to those überCatholics all bets are off! You and me bud! We can see what they’re up to!


17 posted on 01/22/2015 9:34:42 AM PST by Carthego delenda est
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To: Gamecock

Great....Now I’m caught agreeing with Santorum.


18 posted on 01/22/2015 9:38:38 AM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: defconw

Thank you for posting this link:
http://www.ewtnnews.com/catholic-news/Vatican.php?id=11511

I am amazed by how many participants of FR continually fall for the games of the left. If we here can be so gullible, how can those who aren’t the least suspicious be knowledgeable?


19 posted on 01/22/2015 9:43:43 AM PST by MSSC6644 (Defeat Satan; pray the rosary.)
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To: xzins; Gamecock
Great....Now I’m caught agreeing with Santorum.

Get one of these in the mail yet?


20 posted on 01/22/2015 9:45:37 AM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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