Posted on 12/18/2014 7:35:31 AM PST by SeekAndFind
Well, let’s give them the benefit of the doubt and say by altruism they mean “the spirit of kindness”, whatever essential part of their nature that causes them to want to be kind. It’s a subtle difference, but there is still a difference. Where does that spirit come from?
Altruism is the sacrifice of one's values as an end in itself. Since life requires the acquirement of values, altruism is anti-life.Altruism does not represent or derive from the principle of benevolence, good will and kindness toward others. Human life has value because humans were created in God's image, and kindness comes from the concern for the value of human life.
The line I’ve heard from atheists most is that when challenged regarding the nature of the universe, and the little bit of scientific method needed to discuss it, they “Don’t want to talk about that.”
“Atheists cant understand it because they refuse to experience it.”
Well, let’s not say they all can’t understand. I understand it now, and I was in their position not too long ago. They don’t understand, but they certainly can, if they open themselves to God’s message.
They seem to agree that there should be standards,
just not Christian standards.
“Atheism” is simply rejection of God’s Law as the authority.
my retort is this:
it is cruel to be kind. being kind means that you are able to lie to someone, so that you can inflate their ego, without any expense of your own. it means that without any sort of overreach out of your own comfort zone, however large or small that may be, you extend yourself, your attitude, or any sort of ‘gift’ - physical or otherwise.
Now, if you are ‘moved’, ‘led’, ‘followed your nose/heart’, or just ‘played a hunch’, and did something for somebody that you might not do, any other day or frame of time, THAT is true kindness.
What the atheists are attempting to re-define, in their own dictionary, has already been defined, before this present resurgence of this strange bunch of people, so adamant that they follow no religion, but in fact, have defined themselves as religious!
“there is no right or wrong”?
I’m betting if you slugged him in the face and took his wallet he’d say that that, possibly, was “wrong”.
The ironic thing is that supposed atheists are so “concerned” for your salvation from religion, that they have become one.
An “atheist activist” is just another name for an evangelist.
If they don’t believe in faith, then how can they expect morality? Morality must have a basis that is rooted in something that no one can assail. If you have nothing like that, then it’s open season on civilization.
That is why there has never been an atheist civilization that didn’t collapse within the first two minutes. If I dont fear God, then why should I fear you? And if there is no creator, then you are just a collection of chemical reactions, and what is the value in that? You arent any better than a Starfish or a billion ants.
I went through a period of being an atheist, actually. I didn’t like it very much. Eventually I reached the conclusion that it just wasn’t real. I couldn’t do it anymore.
Not just Christian standards but no diety standards of any kind. Anarchy.
altruism is selfishness that has an ulterior motive. altruism will not keep food on the table. eventually altruism will stop by the individual.
illinois can ill afford altruism - look at the neighborhood obama is from - there the belief is in altruism - one of obama’s neighbors is louis farrakan.
Lucky for our public school educated public ... they don’t know the meaning of the word “altruism.”
In reality, atheists are moral parasites, and illogical to boot. They’re moral parasites because they adopt pretty much the Judeo-Christian altruistic ethic in complete contradiction to their proclaimed worldview. The only consistent atheist are sociopaths like Bundy or Dahmer. And the only way they can PROVE there is no God is to be God Himself, everywhere and everywhen simultaneously. They’re therefore merely expressing an illogical opinion when they proclaim there is no God.
Can you be good with out God? I can not be good even with God. the sign says millions are.
But these particular people putting the signs up must not be good or they would not lie.
Their signs say freedom from religious but if that were true of them they would not be trying to bring people into their religious group.
It has nothing to do with freedom from religion but just invitations into their religion.
Kindness. It's still a circular argument which says the desire to do kind acts come from a spirit to be kind. Both start from man in this argument so both much start from the place. It begs the question. And apart from God what makes "kindness" special or any "better" than self seeking ruthlessness? In nature the big fish eat the little fish, what makes that "wrong" for men apart from God? Expecially in a Darwinist construct where survival is the only virtue?
Where does altruism come from? These atheists should be able to find hundreds of examples of non-religious societies thriving with spontaneous altruism.
Do they get the irony that they live in a Christian nation, founded on godliness and Christian doctrine?
The only logical end of unfettered, honest atheism is nihilism. These folks need to read Nietzsche to see the futility and meaninglessness of their rantings.
“It’s still a circular argument which says the desire to do kind acts come from a spirit to be kind. Both start from man in this argument so both much start from the place.”
This argument might work, if man were some indivisible entity, with no component parts, but that is not the case. What part of man does the desire to be kind come from? Is it a rational impulse, based on logic and reason, from our conscious and analytical thought processes? Is it an instinct, bred into us by nature? Is it part of some conditioning that we receive through our upbringing? Or is it something more innate than any of those things?
According to the dictionary altruism is unselfish concern for others.
These punks which is what they are, (as I have been there )do not know that Jesus said the same thing two thousand years ago.
The difference is that Jesus knew what he was saying and meant it.
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