"The Experience After The Council Was So Strong And In Some Cases Violent…" {CATHOLIC CAUCUS}

http://www.ccwatershed.org ^ | December 13, 2014 | Jeff Ostrowski

[NKP_Vet]

Q. Your Eminence, you grew up before the Second Vatican Council. How do you remember those times? A. I grew up in a very beautiful time in the Church, in which we were carefully instructed in the faith, both at home and in the Catholic school, especially with the Baltimore Catechism. I remember the great beauty of the Sacred Liturgy, even in our little farming town, with beautiful Masses. And then, I’m of course most grateful for my parents who gave me a very sound up-bringing in how to live as a Catholic. So they were beautiful years. Q. A friend of mine who was born after the Council used to say, “Not everything was good in the old days, but everything was better.” What do you think about this? A. Well, we have to live in whatever time the Lord gives us. Certainly, I have very good memories of growing up in the 1950’s and early 1960’s. I think what is most important is that we appreciate the organic nature of our Catholic Faith and appreciate the Tradition to which we belong and by which the Faith has come to us. Q. Did you embrace the big changes after the Council with enthusiasm? A. What happened soon after the Council—I was in the minor seminary at that time, and we followed what was happening at the Council—but the experience after the Council was so strong and even in some cases violent, that I have to say that, even as a young man, I began to question some things—whether this was really what was intended by the Council—because I saw many beautiful things that were in the Church suddenly no longer present and even considered no longer beautiful.

[NKP_Vet]

Cardinal Burke discussing Vat II and the recent Synod of the Family. I pray that one day this man of God will be pope.

[Dick Vomer]

No chance with the communist and homosexuals running thing like their own little kingdoms

[JoeFromSidney]

I grew up with the "old Mass," being an altar boy, learning the Latin, etc.

When I was stationed in Thailand in the early 1960s, I began to have doubts about the wisdom of the Mass in Latin. There I was in a country that had no cultural connection with Rome or the West, but the Thais attended the same Latin Mass we in the US and Europe attended. I thought it would be completely alien to them.

When I heard rumors of "the Mass in the vernacular" coming out of the Second Vatican Council, I looked forward to it. Each nation could have the Mass in their own language.

I hadn't realized what a disaster it was going to be. We didn't get "the Mass" in English. We got an entirely new Mass, intentionally stripped of all the reverence and dignity that had marked the old Mass. It took me a while, but I eventually concluded "we'd been robbed."

I've since attended Novus Ordo Masses in Taiwan, Belgium, Austria, and Turkey. Not knowing the local language, I really couldn't follow the Mass. Going back to a common language like Latin, even though it's a dead language, would once again emphasize the unity of the Church. After all, I once learned to follow the Mass in Latin. So could the people in all these other countries, even though they don't share Western culture.

I currently attend a church where the "old Mass" is said. Not so much because of the Latin, but because of the inherent reverence and dignity of the "old Mass."

Nevertheless, I'd still like a Mass in the vernacular that has the inherent reverence and dignity of the "old Mass."