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To: Mrs. Don-o; Elsie
Why would God, choosing and ordering all things from eternity, and willing to give us His precious and perfect Son, choose a damaged mother with a blasted, twisted human nature who wasn't even as good as Eve was, fresh from th hand of God in Eden.

Why would God condescend to save a damaged mother race with a blasted, twisted human nature?

570 posted on 12/11/2014 1:54:37 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock
Why would God, choosing and ordering all things from eternity, and willing to give us His precious and perfect Son, choose a damaged mother with a blasted, twisted human nature who wasn't even as good as Eve was, fresh from th hand of God in Eden.

Rahab is in the lineage.

582 posted on 12/11/2014 2:11:10 PM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Gamecock
Because by His great love He has made salvation possible for the whole human race.

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My point is that if His Son is to be perfect, it makes no sense for Him to derive sick flesh, sick blood, a sick mind from a sick mother.

The OT analogy or foreshadowing would be the way the Ark of the Covenant prefigures Mary. It is to be plated entirely with gold; four rings of gold are to be attached to its four feet; the staves which carry it are overlaid with gold; A golden cover, a kapporet adorned with golden cherubim, is to be placed above the Ark. The Ark is finally to be placed behind a veil (full description at Exodus 25 or thereabouts) and treated with the greatest reverence. One might not even casually touch it, lest he die.

This is an image of the perfection and purity of the vessel carrying the mysterious Presence of the Lord.

In the Old Testament, the Ark of the Covenant, overshadowed by the the Spirit of God, was the instrument through which God came to dwell among men; in the New Testament, Mary, overshadowed by the Holy Spirit, is the instrument through which God came to dwell among men. That's why this Mary-Ark prefigurement makes sense.

Of any ordinary woman, we would naturally assume that the woman is a sinner. That is a given. I think we should not be justified in saying anything different of Mary, EXCEPT that the Angel of God sees it and says it otherwise. At no point is Mary called "full of sin." She is called "full of grace."

588 posted on 12/11/2014 2:21:43 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o (God's grace has been revealed, and has made salvation possible for the whole human race. (Titus 2))
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