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This is going to speedy because I'm heading for bed, but here goes:

I agree with you that logically, there was no necessity for Mary to be free from sin, in order for Jesus to be likewise free, even though from her He derived His human nature. I realize that has been offered by some Catholics as a necessary reason for the Immaculate Conception, but I do not think it's necessary (and I don't think the Church has an official dogma that says it's necessary.)

I'm not sure what to make of the "sin is transmitted by the male parent" argument.

They new reproductive technology is producing offspring in animals and will soon produce offspring in humans, that have no biological father.

I'm not just talking about cloning: that has been around since Dolly the Sheep 20 years ago. I'm talking about the more recent stuff with mitochondrial DNA transfers resulting in an offspring with 3 genetic parents: a man, a woman, and another woman who supplies the mitochondria. This has rapidly led to research about plucking out some haploid egg DNA and joining it to a second ovum, to fertilize it.

I assume we will live to see babies that are genetically fatherless. They're on the verge of it. At first it will be touted as therapeutic somehow. Later it'll be something appealing to lesbians, I suppose: two-female-genetic-parent babies.

It seems implausible that those babies would be free from the effects of Original Sin and would be as perfect in their natures as Adam and Eve were in Eden.

So (I'm groping here) I think that the weakness and blight of our nature results simply from our having been transmitted a human nature from human parents. However the cytotechnology of that may be. Otherwise, what we need is not a Savior, but eugenics at the molecular level.

Your thoughts?

Messing with genetics?

The book of Revelation comes to mind.

I suppose it would be a question for believers to wonder if the creatures created that way are really even human or would have a soul.

This sort of thing is one of the things that has me convinced that we are in the end times.

With stuff like that happening, and where you can see it leading when you follow it through logically, leads me to believe that God would not permit that to happen.

The only option at that point, is to bring down the curtain and put an end to it.

There’s some speculation that this is part of what happened with the Flood.

Scripture tells us that Noah was perfect in his generations. It also mentions that the sons of God saw that the daughters of men were beautiful, had relations with them, and a race of giants was the result.

So some have thought that Noah being perfect in his generations, might have meant that he was physically perfect, genetically, fully human, untainted by whatever it was that had happened.

It’s an interesting theory and I find it plausible. But there’s simply not enough information given in Scripture about it to make any hard and fast statements.