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1 posted on 12/08/2014 2:56:36 PM PST by NYer
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Thus I aspire to proclaim the gospel not where Christ has already been named, so that I do not build on another's foundation, but as it is written: "Those who have never been told of him shall see, and those who have never heard of him shall understand."
Romans 15:20-21

Ping!

2 posted on 12/08/2014 2:57:41 PM PST by NYer ("You are a puff of smoke that appears briefly and then disappears." James 4:14)
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the Church is in the business of proclaiming the Truth

Indeed.

3 posted on 12/08/2014 3:07:02 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Doctrine doesn't change. The trick is to find a way around it.)
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"In the end, of course, Catholicism is not a numbers game. Nor is the Church’s business one of gaining “market share” of a given population.

I don't believe that. I DO believe that numbers game is at least a contributor to the Church undermining the Rule of Law in the USA...the Bastion of Liberty that saved the Church from utter destruction on at least two occasions I can think of.

4 posted on 12/08/2014 3:12:54 PM PST by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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The problems of the Church in Latin America are due to the fact that THE POPES appointed hundreds of Communist bishops over a span of fifty years. Basically the same reason the Church is collapsing in North America. And the worst thing any Pope has done to the Church in the last thousand years (or maybe two thousand), Mass in the vernacular. Much worse than the Novus Ordo. It was the vernacular, not the Novus Ordo itself, that unleashed the egomaniacal improvisers to give us Clown Masses, Disco Masses, Leather Masses, Polka Masses, Tango Masses, etc., etc., as well as the run-of-mill weekday Mass where Father just changes all the stuff he doesn’t like.


6 posted on 12/08/2014 3:51:55 PM PST by Arthur McGowan
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It’s hardly surprising that the election of Latin America’s Pope Francis has focused more attention on Latin American Catholicism since the debates about liberation theology which shook global Christianity in the 1970s and 1980s. The sad irony, however, is that this renewed attention is highlighting something long known to many Catholics but which non-Catholics are now becoming more cognizant: that Latin America’s identity as a “Catholic continent” is fading and has been doing so for some time. By that I don’t mean that most Latin Americans no longer identify as Catholic. That’s still the case. Indeed, in many countries south of the Rio Grande, it remains overwhelming true. But what’s clear is that Catholicism’s ability to shape Latin America’s religious context is in decline....

....the survey also states that Evangelicals are generally more committed to a life of prayer, regular worship, and other church-based activities than even church-going Catholics.

May God bring this kind of problem to every country!

8 posted on 12/08/2014 5:01:08 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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One reason we can have some confidence that the Pew survey presents a relatively accurate picture of Catholic Latin America is that the results track very closely with another less-noticed survey of religion in America, released in April this year by the Latinobarómetro Corporation,

That has been my observation on a larger scope. While certain RCs assert media bias as the reason for dismissing stats that are negative about their church, i have found overall consistency among a wide number of researchers over many years.

10 posted on 12/08/2014 6:53:16 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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“That said, the survey also states that Evangelicals are generally more committed to a life of prayer, regular worship, and other church-based activities than even church-going Catholics. “

I find this to be evident here in Pennsylvania also.

I rejoice that any believers take their relationship with Him seriously enough to live it out - regardless of affiliation.


16 posted on 12/08/2014 8:29:15 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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Those interested in reviving Catholicism’s saliency in everyday life in Latin America should consider how they can make Christ front-and-center of their social outreach

Sorry; but that would entail demoting the Roman Mary.

Unless 3 different kids in Portugal receive a text message; I highly doubt this will happen.

17 posted on 12/09/2014 3:32:38 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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