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Rick Warren’s Call for Christians to Unite With Catholics, ‘Holy Father’ Raising Concerns
Christian News ^ | December 2, 2014 | Heather Clark

Posted on 12/02/2014 2:03:55 PM PST by Gamecock

In a new video, megachurch leader and author Rick Warren is calling for Christians to unite with Roman Catholics and “Pope Francis,” who Warren recently referred to as the “Holy Father”—a move that is raising concerns among Christians nationwide and is resulting in calls for Warren to repent.

Warren made the comments following his visit to the Vatican last month, where he spoke at an interfaith conference on the “Complementarity of Man and Woman.”

“We have far more in common than what divides us,” he said in the two-minute video released by the Catholic News Service on Wednesday, described as being an outline for “an ecumenical vision for Catholics and Protestants to work together to defend the sanctity of life, sex and marriage.”

“They would all say, ‘We believe in the Trinity; we believe in the Bible; we believe in the resurrection; we believe in salvation through Jesus Christ,” Warren asserted, speaking of the various denominations within Christianity, of which he included Roman Catholicism. “These are the big issues.”

The author of the bestselling book “The Purpose Driven Life” then sought to defend Catholics from those who take issue with the practice of seeking the intercession of Mary and the various deceased persons that have been sainted by the Vatican.

“Sometimes protestants think that Catholics worship Mary like she’s another god, but that’s not exactly Catholic doctrine,” Warren contended. “People say, ‘What are the saints all about? Why are you praying to the saints?’ And when you understand what they mean by what they’re saying, there’s a whole lot more commonality [that we have with Roman Catholics].”

“There’s still real differences—no doubt about that,” Warren stated. “But the most important thing is, if you love Jesus, we’re on the same team.”

He closed by speaking of his belief that Christians and Catholics serve as co-laborers for the cause of defending life and family.

“When it comes to the family, we are co-workers in the field in this for the protection of the sanctity of life, the sanctity of sex and the sanctity of marriage,” Warren said. “So, there’s a great commonality and there’s no division on any of those three.”

But Warren’s comments have raised concern from Christian leaders nationwide, who are now calling the Saddleback leader to repentance. Matt Slick of the Christian Apologetics and Research Ministry (CARM) repudiated each of Warren’s points.

“Sure, there are Catholics who love the real Christ, the one who died on the cross for our sins. That is not the problem,” he said. “The problem is the Roman Catholic Church’s false teachings concerning Mary and salvation.”

“Rick Warren says both the Catholics and the Protestants believe in the Bible. But, there is a significant difference between the Bible of the Protestants and the Roman Catholic Church, which has added seven books,” Slick wrote. “[T]here are numerous problems in the apocryphal books, such as the teaching of salvation by works [and] the offering of money for the sins of the dead.”

“Warren implies that both Protestants and Catholics have the same view of salvation,” he continued. “Though it’s technically correct to say that Catholics believe in salvation through Jesus Christ, they reject justification by faith alone in Christ alone. Instead, it teaches that good works of various kinds are necessary for salvation.”

The Christian apologist then pointed to several Roman Catholic teachings on Mary, mainly from the Catechism of the Catholic Church (CCC), such as that Mary “by her manifold intercession continues to bring us the gifts of eternal salvation” and that “[b]y asking Mary to pray for us, we acknowledge ourselves to be poor sinners and we address ourselves to the ‘Mother of Mercy,’ the All-Holy One.”

“Rick Warren has not only failed to recognize the problems in these serious areas, but he has lent his credibility as a Protestant pastor in support of the Roman Catholic Church,” Slick wrote. “This should never be done by any Protestant pastor who takes the Bible seriously. I must conclude that Mr. Warren does not take the word of God seriously and/or he does not understand the damnable teachings of Roman Catholicism regarding salvation.”

“Rick Warren needs to repent,” he said.


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1 posted on 12/02/2014 2:03:55 PM PST by Gamecock
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2 posted on 12/02/2014 2:05:14 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Alex Murphy

Me thinks Rick wants more Roman Catholics to buy his books.


3 posted on 12/02/2014 2:05:48 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: Gamecock

No thank you


4 posted on 12/02/2014 2:06:11 PM PST by taxcontrol
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To: Gamecock

The countdown has started for the Catholic haters to start to comment.


5 posted on 12/02/2014 2:06:25 PM PST by oldbill
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To: oldbill

Well the Prod haters are already here!


6 posted on 12/02/2014 2:08:14 PM PST by Gamecock (Joel Osteen is a preacher of the Gospel like Colonel Sanders is an Army officer.)
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To: oldbill

No kidding. FReepmail...


7 posted on 12/02/2014 2:11:51 PM PST by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Gamecock

“Call for Christians to Unite With Catholics, ‘Holy Father’ Raising Concerns”

unite with? was that what he said?


8 posted on 12/02/2014 2:12:32 PM PST by MeshugeMikey ("Never, Never, Never, Give Up," Winston Churchill ><>)
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To: Gamecock

There are so many reasons for more friendship and association and cooperation ... but Rich Warren ain’t one of them.


9 posted on 12/02/2014 2:15:18 PM PST by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..) c)
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To: Gamecock

I have nothing against Catholics, but using Warren’s thought process, shouldn’t Mormons be included also?


10 posted on 12/02/2014 2:16:14 PM PST by kaehurowing
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To: oldbill

I’m not a hater of Catholics, but neither can I embrace their teachings. No where in the Bible are we told to pray to Mary -
1 Timothy 2:5King James Version (KJV)

5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus;

What part of ONE don’t Catholics understand?


11 posted on 12/02/2014 2:17:13 PM PST by Catsrus (al)
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To: Gamecock

I agree with Warren on this...”Catholics and Protestants to work together to defend the sanctity of life, sex and marriage.”

If we could agree to a ‘holy matrimony’ that overrides the government ‘marriage’ then we would preserve the truth that the ‘holy estate’ is about protecting children and mothers.


12 posted on 12/02/2014 2:18:53 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Gamecock

I don’t gloss over major, fundamental doctrinal differences just because we have a lot of minor ones in various levels of commonality.

And in reality neither does the RCC.


13 posted on 12/02/2014 2:19:59 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: Gamecock

Basically this is Rick Warren endorsing syncretism and unionism under the guise of Kumbaya Christianity.


14 posted on 12/02/2014 2:21:26 PM PST by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: xzins

What does that mean?


15 posted on 12/02/2014 2:30:38 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

It means a culture within a culture.


16 posted on 12/02/2014 2:31:14 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Gamecock

Concerns start with a headline that is that stupid.


17 posted on 12/02/2014 2:33:04 PM PST by x
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To: Gamecock

““Though it’s technically correct to say that Catholics believe in salvation through Jesus Christ, they reject justification by faith alone in Christ alone. Instead, it teaches that good works of various kinds are necessary for salvation.” “

+1

And that is what separates those who are saved eternally from those who are not. It is possible to come to Christ in the catholic denomination, but the truth are obscured by so much that is false. I love them and wish salvation for them.


18 posted on 12/02/2014 2:35:54 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: xzins

Marriage outside of the law has always existed for instance some Mormons and Muslims still have private polygamous marriages, what would be so special about “inventing” it for Christians now?

Most people want their marriages to be legal, for instance people in the military, and how would this affect immigrants who didn’t have legal marriages?


19 posted on 12/02/2014 2:37:04 PM PST by ansel12
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To: ansel12

You won’t get it, so it won’t matter. Have the last word.


20 posted on 12/02/2014 2:38:11 PM PST by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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