Maybe that's why he was chosen. Maybe he has a secret brother, or a butler, that can take his place at times.
Posted on 12/01/2014 4:29:18 PM PST by Mrs. Don-o
(Google Translate)(Full Speech below)
Vatican City (kath.net/KAP/red) Francis Pope has spoken out against a common celebration of the Eucharist by Catholics and Protestants. "If we have to hide our Eucharistic faith under the pretext of a certain accommodation by, then we take our own treasure neither nor our interlocutor seriously enough," he said on Monday in front of the Swiss bishops at the Vatican. In ecumenical dialogue, the bishops should make sure that the believers of all faiths could live their faith "unambiguous and free of confusion" and "without the differences at the expense of truth wegzuretuschieren".
At the same time, the Pope, the Swiss bishops called for, not to blur the distinction between priests and laity. It is good to acknowledge the dedication of the laity and support, but this must always be "in clear respect for the difference between the common priesthood of the faithful and the ministerial priesthood." The bishops would have their followers the importance of the truths of faith for the liturgical, parochial, family and social life convey. For this purpose, they would have their employees select "carefully".
In addition, the Pope warned against over-reliance of the Catholic Church in Switzerland by state institutions. If the church avoided to depend on organizations "that could impose through economic means a style of life, the little Christ" have to do that it would "make the gospel more visible" in their structures He called for further clarification of the ratio to between church and state.
THE SPEECH IN THE TEXT:
Dear Brothers in the Episcopate, Reverend Fathers abbots,
I am delighted to begrße all of you, because your visit ad limina Apostolorum makes these days, one for each of you and for the Church in Switzerland hopefully fraternal, enriching and fruitful pilgrimage. Thank you, Bishop Markus Büchel, for your words that you have all addressed to me in the name.
Switzerland is known as a land of peace, cultural and religious coexistence. It is the seat of important international organizations for peace, labor, science and ecumenism. Although many inhabitants of the Church are far, the majority recognizes the Catholics and the Protestants to play a positive role in the social field: Your commitment to charity brings to the poor and marginalized an image of the Father of tender love. Your country has a long Christian tradition. Next year you will celebrate the anniversary of the great Abbey of Saint-Maurice. It is a striking evidence of 1500 years of continuous religious life, an exceptional case in Europe. Dear Brothers, you have the large and beautiful responsibility to keep the faith alive in your country. Without a living faith in the risen Christ the beautiful churches and monasteries gradually become museums, the commendable works and institutions lose their soul, leaving only empty spaces and lost people. The mission entrusted to you is to feed the flock by going ahead according to circumstances, in the center, or rear. The people of God can not be without its shepherd, the bishops and priests exist; as a service to the unity of the faith and his integrity dissemination of the Lord of the Church has given the gift of apostolic succession (see FIG. lumen fidei, 49). She is a precious gift along with the stemming from their collegiality, if we understand it to take effect and to bring to bear to support one another to live it and to those to whom the Lord has sent to meeting to bring with him, "the way, the truth and the life" (cf., Jn 14.6). So these people, especially the young generations, can more easily find reasons to believe and to hope.
I encourage you to continue your efforts for the formation of seminarians. We are talking about a question for the future of the Church. She needs priests who have enjoyed a thorough familiarity with the tradition and teaching of the Church of Christ be addressed and become like Him, the people on his way (see Art. Jn 1.40 to 42). But they will learn more and more to live in his presence, by taking his word, are nourished by the Eucharist, witness the healing bestowing meaning of the sacrament of reconciliation and seek, "what is the Father" (cf. Lk. 2.49 ). In fraternal communion, they are an effective aid in the face of temptation to withdraw into themselves or in a virtual life, as well as find a perpetual remedy for the sometimes oppressive loneliness. I invite you to give to your priests and night to give them time, especially if they have removed themselves and have forgotten the meaning of spiritual fatherhood of the bishop or think that we have no need. A simple, true and fraternal dialogue often allow a restart.
You have the necessary cooperation between priests and laity unfolds. The mission of the laity in the Church has an important place in fact, because they contribute to the life of parishes and church institutions, whether as a full-time or volunteer workers. It is good to honor their commitment and support, but in clear respect for the difference between the common priesthood of the faithful and the ministerial priesthood. At this point, I encourage you to continue the education of the baptized regarding the truths of faith and their importance to the liturgical, parochial, family and social life and to select the staff carefully. So you allow the laity, in fact integrate into the church to take their place in it and to make the received grace of baptism fruitful to jointly walk towards holiness and to work for the good of all.
The received from the Lord sending invites us also to reach out to those with whom we come in contact, even if they differ in their culture, religious belief or religious beliefs of us. If we believe in the free and generous work of the Spirit, we can understand each other well and work together to serve the society better and decided to contribute to peace. Ecumenism is a contribution not only to the unity of the Church, but also to the unity of the human family (cf., Evangelii Gaudium, 245). It favors a fertile, peaceable and fraternal coexistence. In prayer and in the joint proclamation of the Lord Jesus, however, we must be careful to allow the faithful of every Christian denomination, to live their faith clearly and free of confusion and wegzuretuschieren at the expense of truth without the differences. If we, on the pretext of a certain accommodation by must hide our Eucharistic faith, for example, then we take our own treasure neither nor our interlocutor seriously enough. Likewise, the specific features must be taken into account every denomination in the schools of religious instruction.
I encourage you also to say a common clear word on the problems of society, in a moment when some people - even within the Church - (. Cf. Evangelii Gaudium, 88) tries to refrain from the realism of the social dimension of the Gospel , The gospel has its own, original strength to make suggestions. Ours is to present it in its full extent, make it accessible without tarnish its beauty, nor weaken its incentive so that it reaches the people who have to deal with the difficulties of everyday life, the meaning of their Search life or who have drifted away from the Church. Disappointed or on his Encouraged by thinking that deliberately deny the transcendent dimension of man, of life and of human relations, especially in the face of suffering and death. The testimony of Christians and parishes can really brighten their way and support their pursuit of happiness. And so the Church in Switzerland can clearly be themselves, Body of Christ and God's people, and not only a beautiful organization, another NGO.
It is also important that the relationship between the Church and the cantons be continued quietly. Their wealth is in a special collaboration as well as in the givenness of the values of the Gospel in the life of society and in the public decisions. The peculiarity of this relationship, however, has a reflection requires that began several years ago to preserve the distinction of functions between the bodies and the structures of the Catholic Church. The Vademecum, is currently being put into action is another step towards the clarification and understanding. Although the modalities of application of the diocese to diocese are different, a joint working will help you to better collaborate with cantonal institutions. If the church avoids to depend on facilities that may impose by economic means a style of life, little is coherent with Christ, who was poor, they will make in their structures the gospel better be visible.
Dear brothers, the church has its origins in Pentecost. At Pentecost the apostles went out and began to speak in all languages and were able through the power of the Holy Spirit to all people express their living faith in the risen Christ. The Savior invites us constantly adjusting to proclaim the Gospel to everyone. You have to proclaim the good news and should not bow to the whims of men. Often we strive to respond to us without realizing that our interlocutor search did not reply. You have to preach, go to meet, the questions in the never outdated apostolic vision: "This Jesus hath God raised up, we are witnesses" (Acts 2:32).
I assure you my prayer for you, for your priests and your diocesan. I wish you, eagerly and patiently till God's field, while maintaining a passion for the truth, and I encourage you to act all decided together. The Blessed Virgin Mary and the intercession of St. Nicholas of Flue and of St. Maurice and his companions, I entrust the future of evangelization in your country. With all my heart I give you my Apostolic Blessing, and brotherly I beg you, do not forget to pray for me.
From the Vatican, on December 1, 2014
Copyright 2014 Catholic News Agency, Vienna, Austria
OK, keep in mind that this is just a Google Translate text (what the heck is "wegzuretuschieren"?) but...
Does it sometimes seem to you there are two Francises?
Hey I actually agree with him on something. Too many differences on this point to have any common celebration.
I suspect that Joel Osteen, Rick Warren, and James Robeson will be deeply saddened by this speech.
But... he can pray in a mosque?
Are there two Francis?
Good to know that at least one freeper has his entire life and salvation figured out to the exclusion of all with whom he disagrees.
No, he is one Modernist. He is acting and speaking like a Modernist does....full of contradictions.
God bless Pope Francis.
No right-thinking Protestant who truly understands it would even considering participating in “Eucharistic celebrations.”
“Francis Pope has spoken out against a common celebration of the Eucharist by Catholics and Protestants.”
Well, give him credit for getting that one right.
Maybe that's why he was chosen. Maybe he has a secret brother, or a butler, that can take his place at times.
praying with muslims, no problem.
praying with protestants, nope.
got it. no beam-in-the-eye issues here.
That is clear.
Yeah, well, considering their Catechism and what it states about muslims, it’s no surprise to many of us.
As a non-Catholic, who has attended religious services at Catholic masses, I understood that taking “communion” was ONLY for those who were actually IN FULL COMMUNION with the spiritual requirements of the mass.
As a non-Catholic, obviously I was not meant to do so.
It was explained to me that even among the most devout of Catholics who attended, there were numerous reasons many would not partake of that particular part of the mass, on any given day, and that none of those who did not partake should be questioned or judged for refraining, by any others in attendance.
a longtime priest friend of mine believes muslims can get to heaven b/c they love mary. he at the same time isn’t certain he’s going to heaven. it’s ridiculous.
We Presbyterians don’t get the Mary thing.
They’re never sure.
If they say they are, other RC’s will condemn them as having the sin of *presumption*, which disqualifies them from heaven. So they HAVE to be unsure.
A real Catch 22 for them, isn’t it?
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