[Mrs. Don-o]

Yup.

[Wyrd bið ful aræd]

“We [in the States] always say that we desire to live in the shadow or shade of St. Peter."

Shadow of St. Peter =/= Cloud of Pope Francis.

[Slyfox]

Pope Translator:

http://www.setonmagazine.com/latest-articles/what-if-the-translators-of-pope-francis-translated-other-stuff-in-history

[SeekAndFind]

So why did Pope Francis remove the conservative Cardinal Burke from his position?

[Tax-chick]

George Weigel has also been very level-headed.

[Alex Murphy]

Philadelphia Archbishop Charles Chaput, usually recognized as a strong conservative leader who also attended the Rome conference, told Crux that the problem isn’t the pope, but those interpreting him.

In before the pope is mistranslated again PING

Often at odds with the Obama administration over religious liberty, abortion, and gay marriage, the United States Conference of Catholic Bishops has come out on the president’s side this month, pleased with his decision to act unilaterally on immigration, a move they’ve been encouraging for some time.
-- from the thread Catholic Bishops Encourage Obama’s Executive Action

....on social issues, especially homosexuality, Catholics are far more likely to be liberal than other Christians, and even Americans in general....the Pew Center finds that an overwhelming number of US Catholics aged 18 to 29 accept homosexuality (85 percent) and support same-sex marriage (75 percent). More worryingly for conservative Catholics, when the question is asked of weekly massgoers, who are by definition more likely to be involved in the faith and in their parish, the number of overall pro-SSM Catholics is an astonishing 45 percent. Only 44 percent of weekly massgoers support the Church’s teaching, which is to oppose same-sex marriage. The last 11 percent presumably don’t know how they feel. Given the strong cultural currents moving toward full acceptance of gay marriage, there is no reason to believe that when they do make their minds up, that all, or even most, of those undecided Catholics will break for the Church’s position. In fact, given that Pew’s analysis doesn’t break out the weekly massgoers by age group, it is likely that the opposition to SSM is heavily weighted toward the seniors, a group that is literally dying out....

....In general, the higher a share of a country’s residents are Catholic, the higher percentage of residents express tolerance toward divorce and towards gays. The effect isn’t huge, but it’s consistent.
-- from the thread Catholics, the Real Liberals

[Praxeologue]

Do you consider George, Glendon, Card and Chaput to be ‘conservative’, as in advocating adherence to Church doctrine?

[ebb tide]

Yup.

Nope.

Cardinal's demotion helps Pope Francis quell 'conservative backlash' -- for now

[Salvation]

For later.

[ebb tide]

Never fear. Francis says the 2000+ year old Church has a year to mature (to his standards, perhaps?).

[CodeToad]

The College of Cardinals elected the devil himself. Nothing is more evil than thieves that steal using the force of government to buy the favors of others. That is socialism, communism, liberalism and this Pope embraces such garbage.

[piusv]

George also underlined the interreligious aspect of the conference, with people of faith coming together “across the historic line of religious divisions to bear witness to the common belief that marriage is the union of man and woman open to life.” It was a running joke during the gathering that the non-Catholic speakers were the most powerful ones, with speeches from former chief rabbi of the United Kingdom and the Commonwealth, Lord Jonathan Sacks, and the Rev. Richard Warren, senior pastor of Saddleback Church. Both received standing ovations. Anthony Fisher, the newly appointed bishop of Sydney, Australia, who attended the gathering and described it as the best Vatican-organized conference he has attended in the past 15 years, saw truth in the joke. The Jews and the Evangelicals were the best, they spoke very inspiringly, but that’s good for us, it’s like an injection of hope,” he said. “I’d really like for those Jews and Evangelicals to be at the next synod [on the family, scheduled for October 2015],” Fisher said.

How disgusting. A true Catholic bishop, St John Fisher, must be rolling around in his grave. Of course not literally because he is in Heaven for witnessing to the true Catholic Faith, not the false Vatican II religion that prides itself on false ecumenism.