11 Quotes that Explode the “Spirit of Vatican II”

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[millegan]

“[O]ften men, deceived by the Evil One, have become vain in their reasonings and have exchanged the truth of God for a lie, serving the creature rather than the Creator. [...] By the proclamation of the Gospel… [the Church] gives [non-Christians] the dispositions necessary for baptism, snatches them from the slavery of error and of idols and incorporates them in Christ…”

Sound like something from the superstitious medieval Church?

Actually, it’s a quote from the Second Vatican Council (Lumen gentium, 16-17; promulgated in 1964).

[MNDude]

He’s back! Calling HumbleGunner!

[SpirituTuo]

You risk raising the ire of those more Catholic than the Pope!

[BipolarBob]

Who are these "dissenting Catholics" mentioned? Didn't you know they're all one happy bunch (who happen to believe different from one another but call out Protestants for different denominations)?

[humblegunner]

I kind of have to leave ‘em alone when they pimp on the Religion forum.

Different rules.

[piusv]

This religious submission of mind and will must be shown in a special way to the authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff, even when he is not speaking ex cathedra;

I'll have to keep this line in my back pocket for every time someone says we shouldn't be concerned with or have to agree with what Francis says.

[Campion]

The “authentic magisterium of the Roman Pontiff” doesn’t include every offhand remark the Pope makes to a journalist or whoever. When he issues a formal teaching document, particularly if it commands assent, sure.

[steve86]

When he issues a formal teaching document, particularly if it commands assent, sure.

Some day a bad pope will issue a bad "teaching document" and it will be sure to "command assent". May have already happened depending on the definition of teaching document. Catholics should listen to the Holy Spirit at that point, not the pope.

[Campion]

Who gets to decide whether it’s “bad”? The guy in the mirror? How is that different from what Luther said?

[piusv]

But that’s not what I hear on this board over and over again. I hear ...”only ex cathedra”, “only ex cathedra”.

[piusv]

A pope that does such a thing is not just a bad pope. He is an anti-pope.

[steve86]

The Holy Spirit.

[piusv]

Here is one source that provides an explanation of the errors of Vatican II (there are others out there if one is truly interested in learning more about it):

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/vatican2/Privatican.htm

Generally speaking , the issues are mostly related to matters of ecumenism, religious liberty, and unity.

[Repent and Believe]

...explanation of the errors of Vatican II

Pius,

Thanks for the source explaining the errors. I was about to compile a similar rebuttal until your provided link was found to be rather robust:

http://www.catholicapologetics.info/modernproblems/vatican2/Privatican.htm

[Larry Lucido]

What is with you and your ChurchSodaPop thingy that you keep pimping and never coming back to reply to?? Is that all you do is pimp your sodapop blog??

[Larry Lucido]

I posted my 15 before I saw your 5.

I’ll go to confession.

Although I doubt our, ahem, blogger will be there.

[piusv]

You’re very welcome.