[ealgeone]

one cannot diein an absolute state of grace, one would have some small sins at least ( a just man sins sevens times daily ), and you have to be in perfect grace to see God.

uh....Paul disagrees. btw..if caths believe you sin at least seven times a day, you best be living with the priest so you can confess on a daily, if not hourly basis. good thing Christianity has already taken care of that with Christ's sacrifice on the cross for ALL of our sins.

Romans 4:7-8

7“BLESSED ARE THOSE WHOSE LAWLESS DEEDS HAVE BEEN FORGIVEN, AND WHOSE SINS HAVE BEEN COVERED.

8“BLESSED IS THE MAN WHOSE SIN THE LORD WILL NOT TAKE INTO ACCOUNT.”

[Elsie]

...you best be living with the priest so you can confess on a daily, if not hourly basis.

Ah...

The old Hand in the Cookie Jar thingy...