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To: Elsie

Yes!

No one that is deliberately not keeping the commandments, and especially teaching others to do the same has any chance. That is the very definition of a “worker of iniquity.”

Grace is paying for the sins we committed before we had knowledge of his Way, not for the arrogance of demanding a get-out-of-hell-free card.

If you’re his, you are working on pleasing him, and only keeping his commandments will ever do that job.


162 posted on 11/18/2014 6:23:04 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: editor-surveyor

>>> Grace is paying for the sins we committed before we had knowledge of his Way, not for the arrogance of demanding a get-out-of-hell-free card.

You keep referring to the Gift of God as a “get-out-of-hell-free card”.
By relating the price paid for our sin to a game card, you diminish the work of Christ in mocking fashion.

For us the sinner, the gift of salvation IS free... it costs us NOTHING... otherwise it would not be a gift. Would you deny that salvation is a gift? I wonder.
Regardless, the “get-out-of-hell-free” card as you put it is nothing of the sort... while it costs us nothing, it cost God EVERYTHING! Our salvation is NOT free! It cost Jesus more than anyone will ever know... and for you to cheapen his sacrifice in this way invites God’s wrath.
One could even argue that such mockery of God’s gift is to speak against the Holy Spirit... because His ministry and sacrifice WAS and IS a work of the Holy Spirit. I am not claiming that you are guilty of the unforgivable sin. I am saying that you are treading on very thin ice.

Maybe you are not as righteous as you think you are.


165 posted on 11/18/2014 7:34:10 PM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: editor-surveyor
Yes!

Thanks for explaining this.

167 posted on 11/19/2014 4:44:05 AM PST by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: editor-surveyor

Jesus told people that unless their righteousness exceeded that of the scribes and Pharisees, they could not enter the kingdom of heaven.

He elaborated on the Law in Matthew 5-7, that it’s a matter of the heart, not the actions.

The Pharisees had all the actions down, and Jesus called them vipers, white washed tombs, etc.

Anyone hung up on obeying the Law outwardly is missing what forgiveness and Christ and His righteousness is all about.

Go ahead and try to work your way to heaven and let us know how that works out for you.


172 posted on 11/19/2014 3:23:06 PM PST by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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