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To: editor-surveyor
>>> “ If NOBODY is yet saved, then salvation must come after death.”
You’re just figuring that out? For all but the final generation, that is the undeniable fact that Yeshua and his apostles were trying to get across.

Is this the Catholic teaching? or your personal conviction?

Heb 9:27
And as it is appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment:

Romans 3:23
For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;

Romans 3:10
As it is written, There is none righteous, no, not one:

Rom 3:20
Therefore by the deeds of the law there shall no flesh be justified in his sight: for by the law is the knowledge of sin.

Jas 2:10
For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all.

Tell me... Who gets a pass?

Who will NOT be cast in the lake of fire?
143 posted on 11/18/2014 2:53:37 PM PST by Safrguns (PM me if you like to play Minecraft!)
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To: Safrguns
>> "Tell me... Who gets a pass? Who will NOT be cast in the lake of fire?" <<


Only those that truly believe as the word believe was understood in Yeshua’s time.

If you want to know what that means, read John's first epistle.

Yeshua asked us to obey his commandments. He said that those that love him keep his commandments.

What is “iniquity?” Not keeping his commandments; teaching others not to keep his commandments.

1John 2:

[1] My little children, these things write I unto you, that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an advocate with the Father, Jesus Christ the righteous:
[2] And he is the propitiation for our sins: and not for ours only, but also for the sins of the whole world.
[3] And hereby we do know that we know him, if we keep his commandments.
[4] He that saith, I know him, and keepeth not his commandments, is a liar, and the truth is not in him.
[5] But whoso keepeth his word, in him verily is the love of God perfected: hereby know we that we are in him.
[6] He that saith he abideth in him ought himself also so to walk, even as he walked.

What is the definition of sin?

1John

[4] Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.
[5] And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.
[6] Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him.
[7] Little children, let no man deceive you: he that doeth righteousness is righteous, even as he is righteous.

To me this seems simple and clear; he who is righteous gets the “pass.”

If we truly know him, he has written his Torah on our heart. If he has written Torah on our heart, we love his Torah, and keep it out of love. If that is not where you are, then you are not in him!

Do you think John, of all of the apostles, knew Yeshua? Do you want to believe that John is misleading us?

Was Paul lying in Romans 2 when he said

"[13] For not the hearers of the law are just before God, but the doers of the law shall be justified." ?

145 posted on 11/18/2014 3:41:31 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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