Wrong. There is one authority given exclusively to Peter and his successors. This is how the early Church fathers understood this. This was the same authority they used to put together the books in the Bible. They did not fall from the skies. They were sorted out after years of study, discussion, debate, and then by final authority of the successor to Peter as the “Word of God.”
Him being given authority is not the same thing as founding the church upon him.
Or would you say that the kingdom if Israel was founded upon Saul? After all he was given the authority of king by God.
This is how the early Church fathers understood this. This was the same authority they used to put together the books in the Bible.
Again, authority is not equivalent to the founding.
They did not fall from the skies. They were sorted out after years of study, discussion, debate, and then by final authority of the successor to Peter as the “Word of God.”
Again, I'm not saying that Peter had no authority, or that things happened by magic [i.e. without study or work].
>> “There is one authority given exclusively to Peter and his successors.” <<
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Nonsense!
Peter had no more ‘authority’ than anyone else. (Try reading Yeshua’s words; he made it clear that all of his assembly were equal.
All of the apostles voluntarily deferred to James, out of respect for the fact that he he was the eldest of Yeshua’s brothers, but that was not official.
The pecking orders were dreamed up long after the apostles were all dead. Those that practiced such will not likely find Yehova’s rest.
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Well no...That would be Peter and his 11 co-apostles...You DO read the bible don't you???
Peter was sent to the Jews...The circumcision...Are you a Jew??? It was the apostle Paul who was sent to build the Gentile church...
Rom 15:8 Now I say that Jesus Christ was a minister of the circumcision for the truth of God, to confirm the promises made unto the fathers:
Rom 15:9 And that the Gentiles might glorify God for his mercy; as it is written, For this cause I will confess to thee among the Gentiles, and sing unto thy name.
Rom 15:16 That I should be the minister of Jesus Christ to the Gentiles, ministering the gospel of God, that the offering up of the Gentiles might be acceptable, being sanctified by the Holy Ghost.
Rom 11:13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
Where's Peter??? What happened to Peter??? Peter may (or may not) have been the preeminent apostle for the Jews but it was Paul and his successors who was the preeminent apostles to the Gentile church...
Isn't it odd that your religion fails to mention this...
This is how the early Church fathers understood this. This was the same authority they used to put together the books in the Bible. They did not fall from the skies. They were sorted out after years of study, discussion, debate, and then by final authority of the successor to Peter as the “Word of God.”
Hey, you remember all those 'heretics' who your religion tortured and murdered and burned their bibles??? Those Christians who died for refusing to bow down to the Roman religion??? Could be they as well had a lot of written documents that were destroyed by the Roman Empire...Perhaps it was some of those guys who were the 'real' church fathers...
Your post #10.....nope. Not all ECFs were in agreement on Peter being the rock. So in two different threads you’re spouting falsehoods to advance your unbiblical position. You’re not off to a good start.
Really? What was it?
We know it's not the "keys to the kingdom" because those were given to all of the Apostles when they were assembled. (The "keys" were described to Peter as the power to bind and loose on heaven and Earth, Matthew 16:19, but not delivered to Peter alone, but to all of the Apostles, John 20:21-23).
So what other authority was given with Peter's successors mentioned?