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On Despising Mormon Polygamy
Patheos' KiwiMormon blog ^ | October 28, 2014 | Gina Colvin

Posted on 11/05/2014 7:40:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

This is my response to the Plural Marriage in Kirkland and Nauvoo essay posted last week to LDS.org.

A couple of years ago I was talking to my 16-17 year old Sunday School class about polygamy. They raised it – not me. Our conversation was about the early practice of Mormon polygamy and how it came about. The girls in the class turned up their noses and looked aghast while one boy responded to Joseph Smith’s revelation on polygamy with a snort, and a, ‘Yeah right! That’s convenient!’

To say that polygamy has been a singular nuisance to the church is an understatement. Over the years various discourses have been raised to counter the repugnance that many, inside and outside of the church feel for the practice.

The Wastach Front is filled with the descendants of multiple wife practitioners and it ‘fulfilled a glorious purpose’.

It’s been a great source of strength to the church today.

It gave homes and shelter for single women.

Our great church leaders came from these homes.

Spirit babies are awaiting mortal tabernacles,

Blah, blah, blah…

The thing is I DON’T CARE. I find it a repellent, dehumanizing practice that reduced females to brood mares and turned Utah into a pious stud farm. Furthermore it has historically quashed some of my enthusiasm for a happy afterlife, particularly in contexts when I’ve been told that my husband will be required to pick up further wives as a matter of eternal course.

There hasn’t been once in my 39 years of being a Mormon that I have ever had the slightest modicum of spiritual feeling for the practice – other than abhorrence. So there is absolutely nothing the church can say, whether through essays, declarations or apologetics that will sway me on the matter. I see it as little other than a form of spiritual abuse to maintain a discourse of high transcendent religious motivation around the character of Joseph Smith when he was, at least in this respect, a womanizing, seducing, Lothario who coopted God in order validate his particular feminine tastes. So LDS.org doesn’t get a pass from me for their unpunctual candor. Good on them for finally broaching a tricky topic and publically admitting Joseph’s theological inventiveness that shaped several generations of Mormon discourse, but it doesn’t go far enough. Perhaps its time to drop the ‘righteous polygamy’ story entirely; along with everything else that has adhered to it over the years.

So here’s my take on the historical matter. I like to think of Emma Smith as the other half of Joseph’s prophetic mission. When Emma said ‘no’ to his calls for her polyandrous compliance he should have stopped. Emma’s guidance and criticism on the practice should have brought Joseph’s enthusiasm for multiple wifery to a screaming halt. If Joseph had listened to his wife on the matter the story of Mormonism would have played out quite differently, and ultimately with less controversy and more ease, and less fear, paranoia, secrecy and pain.

And for me, that very reluctance on the part of the masculine church to admit the voice of women – in all matters – has been its bane.

I don’t have a testimony of flaming swords; angels commanding the practice; novel revelations, (Section 132). Nor do I believe in the divinity of these strange dalliances and couplings. This is not to say that I have dismissed Joseph entirely. He was a cad, but he was a mad and bold visionary who was as audacious as he was quixotic. I would have loved Joseph the Prophet. I would have sat at his feet and soaked in his emergent and brilliant theology; I would have been loyal to him; I would have followed him and believed in his vision of the heavens and my eternal potential.

But if Joseph had come a sniffing around my daughter I would have kicked him in the nuts and sent him home to his wife.


TOPICS: History; Moral Issues; Other Christian; Religion & Culture
KEYWORDS: lds; mormons; polygamy; utah
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1 posted on 11/05/2014 7:40:17 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In before accusations of hate!


2 posted on 11/05/2014 7:41:53 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Maximus)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I had a personal tour of the RLDS in Illinois at Nauvoo. Very interesting. Also saw the jail where Joseph Smith Jr. was kept and the window he jumped from when shot. The people at both places were very friendly and welcoming. Nice folks but .....


3 posted on 11/05/2014 7:43:20 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: SkyDancer

I’ve been to the Temple in Independence, Missouri. Quite a building.


4 posted on 11/05/2014 7:44:25 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: SkyDancer
"Nice folks but ....."

...But loaded to the gills with whacky ideas.

5 posted on 11/05/2014 7:45:13 PM PST by Wyrd bið ful aræd (Asperges me, Domine, hyssopo et mundabor, Lavabis me, et super nivem dealbabor.)
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To: Wyrd bið ful aræd

Yep. The store had all kinds of JS memorabilia for sale. The whole episode so to speak was quite interesting, history and all that. Got to see JS grave site.


6 posted on 11/05/2014 7:47:07 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Polygamy is actually an Old Testament practice, which was never challenged in the New Testament.

Women and men are free to do as they like, which is less demeaning than demanding that they conform to some other person’s arbitrary societal expectations. Whatever that may be, it is not freedom.

(Mormons are still not playing with a full deck of cards, but not for this.)


7 posted on 11/05/2014 7:48:22 PM PST by SteveH (First they ignore you. Then they laugh at you. Then they fight you. Then you win.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
I find it a repellent, dehumanizing practice that reduced females to brood mares and turned Utah into a pious stud farm. Furthermore it has historically quashed some of my enthusiasm for a happy afterlife, particularly in contexts when I’ve been told that my husband will be required to pick up further wives as a matter of eternal course. There hasn’t been once in my 39 years of being a Mormon that I have ever had the slightest modicum of spiritual feeling for the practice – other than abhorrence. So there is absolutely nothing the church can say, whether through essays, declarations or apologetics that will sway me on the matter. I see it as little other than a form of spiritual abuse to maintain a discourse of high transcendent religious motivation around the character of Joseph Smith when he was, at least in this respect, a womanizing, seducing, Lothario who coopted God in order validate his particular feminine tastes. So LDS.org doesn’t get a pass from me for their unpunctual candor. Good on them for finally broaching a tricky topic and publically admitting Joseph’s theological inventiveness that shaped several generations of Mormon discourse, but it doesn’t go far enough. Perhaps its time to drop the ‘righteous polygamy’ story entirely; along with everything else that has adhered to it over the years.

Related threads:
Essay: Mormon founder had teen bride during early days of faith when polygamy was practiced

8 posted on 11/05/2014 7:48:24 PM PST by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The Nauvoo site was interesting as well. Some of the original building still standing. I had a personal tour guide. Showed rooms where JS was and where he planned the attack of the newspaper office next town over and the basement hideout he had ... the room where all this happened kinda sent chills up my spine to think I was in the same room as he was ....


9 posted on 11/05/2014 7:49:33 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: SkyDancer

So?


10 posted on 11/05/2014 7:51:06 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: SteveH

No polygamy was NOT an Old Testament practice.
Before one says that, they should actually read the old testament AND understand historical context.


11 posted on 11/05/2014 7:53:11 PM PST by svcw (Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

A real conundrum. ..

We abhore the whole 72 virgins being raped for eternity in Allah’s whorehouse but, Joe gets a pass?


12 posted on 11/05/2014 7:54:35 PM PST by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously-you won't live through it anyway-Enjoy Yourself ala Louis Prima)
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To: svcw

So, apparently it was a creepy experience.


13 posted on 11/05/2014 7:57:13 PM PST by Sasparilla
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To: Vendome

How will they be able to stop it now that “gay marriage” is legal almost everywhere?


14 posted on 11/05/2014 8:00:12 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“The thing is I DON’T CARE. I find it a repellent, dehumanizing practice that reduced females to brood mares and turned Utah into a pious stud farm.”

Joe Smith was no California Chrome. Seriously what did those chicks see in him?


15 posted on 11/05/2014 8:01:08 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: Morgana

That bulge in his pocket .... his wallet.


16 posted on 11/05/2014 8:02:45 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (The question isn't who is going to let me; it's who is going to stop me.)
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To: svcw

Just saying. A tour. What’s your problem?


17 posted on 11/05/2014 8:04:58 PM PST by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wasn’t just referring to that, I mean over all. A champion horse has it in every department. Judging by Joe’s criminal record I’m not sure I’d hire him to clean the stables.


18 posted on 11/05/2014 8:06:58 PM PST by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can guarantee you that polygamy will be enthusiastically welcomed when the Slat Lake City prophets change their minds.

Anyone wanna start a betting pool when that will happen?


19 posted on 11/05/2014 8:11:44 PM PST by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: svcw

“No polygamy was NOT an Old Testament practice.”

I am guessing what was practiced by Moses, Abraham, Solomon, and David is not considered an Old Testament practice. We are just missing the context, you see.


20 posted on 11/05/2014 8:15:12 PM PST by sagar
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