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Summary of how conservative Catholics made sure the leftists were stopped
ChurchMilitatnt -- The Vortex ^ | Michael Voris

Posted on 10/21/2014 4:28:27 PM PDT by Salvation

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To: NKP_Vet

I hope that the pope is smart enough to know when he has lost a set. As Archbishop Chaput said in an interview, the Synod produced nothing but confusion. There are enough Benedict bishops to cause him a lot of trouble between now and the regular synod.


21 posted on 10/21/2014 11:09:37 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Kennard

It really starts with the Emperor Joseph of Austria in the 1780s. You know, the Enlightened One.


22 posted on 10/21/2014 11:14:46 PM PDT by RobbyS (quotes)
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To: Salvation
I had faith that this would happen. Most of the lefties, not all but most are getting toward retirement age. The young seminarians are mostly conservative.

Most of the lefty sisters are past 65 as well.

Patience and prayer. I have had St. Michael working over time.

23 posted on 10/22/2014 6:06:28 AM PDT by defconw (Both parties have clearly lost their minds!)
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To: Carry_Okie
New technology makes it possible to displace traditional operations of government with free-enterprise risk management architectures

That could be. I did not say laissez-faire is a bad idea, just that historically it has lead to a shift toward defensive postures of today conservatism, which would be perfectly happy letting the gays, the muslims and the socialists do whatever they want, just not in my town.

24 posted on 10/22/2014 7:43:16 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: defconw

+1


25 posted on 10/22/2014 8:15:26 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Salvation

Thank you for the ping. Prayers continue.


26 posted on 10/22/2014 8:16:39 AM PDT by Bigg Red (31 May 2014: Obamugabe officially declares the USA a vanquished subject of the Global Caliphate.)
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To: Carry_Okie
Why is it that so many conservatives assume defensive positions?

"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips, (1811-1884)

27 posted on 10/22/2014 10:19:20 AM PDT by MeganC (It took Democrats four hours to deport Elian Gonzalez)
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To: annalex
I did not say laissez-faire is a bad idea, just that historically it has lead to a shift toward defensive postures of today conservatism,

I'm talking about something much more pro-active than laizzez-faire. Perhaps what we should call it is "constructivism." The left highjacks words all the time. Maybe it's time we did it too.

28 posted on 10/22/2014 10:33:01 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Take the chip and let them hack your brain.)
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To: MeganC
"Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty." -- Wendell Phillips, (1811-1884)

That presumes the defenders even understand what they are defending. I can make an excellent case that NOBODY understands the Torah as originally given by its pastoralist progenitors, much less knows how to apply those principles to the 21st Century (a book I'm close to finishing btw).

29 posted on 10/22/2014 10:35:29 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Take the chip and let them hack your brain.)
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To: Salvation

For later viewing. Thanks.


30 posted on 10/22/2014 10:36:26 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Carry_Okie

I like that.


31 posted on 10/22/2014 8:01:38 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
I spoke of modern conservatism. The latter is heavily laced with laissez-faire, which makes it a defensive phenomenon.

Restraining man's authoritarian instincts is an arduous task for a political leader. Socialists gripe about working class authoritarianism, yet they are the control culprits. In economic affairs, the political leader must actively fight mercantilism. Laissez-faire policies that create a productive environment for business expansion are not defensive. Conservative social policy advocates government coercion to enforce a society's moral values, going well beyond 'Lockean liberalism'.

32 posted on 10/22/2014 10:22:57 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Carry_Okie
New technology makes it possible to displace traditional operations of government with free-enterprise risk management architectures. It takes an active research, development, and education process to employ those tools to that libertarian end.

That's very interesting. Can you provide an example or two of the functioning of your constructivist government?

33 posted on 10/22/2014 10:36:45 PM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Kennard; Avoiding_Sulla; wagglebee; EternalVigilance; Jim Robinson
That's very interesting. Can you provide an example or two of the functioning of your constructivist government?

Easy.

Constructivists believe in making the most of every public resource. Needless to say, roads are a tangled mess in most of those Democrat-controlled cities. Googlebus displaces existing public mass transit because they know the riders. They provide information systems so that the riders can work on the bus. Google wins, and so do the riders.

Similarly, these new online ride-sharing and room renting services perform the same constructivist function. The original idea of government regulating cab services was all about risk management. Now, with information services, riders and drivers have an agent to perform that function. If that agent and the drivers are appropriately insured there is no reason for cab licensing or public mass-transit at all.

OK, that's constructivist example number one.

I have a patent on a free-market environmental management business method. I also have a book about our 25-year native plant habitat restoration project that you can read that both qualifies me as an environmental expert and shows why freedom in resource management is an absolute must in promoting a healthy planet. Because it's 80% pictures, it's only 750 pages!

OK, that's two.

Of course, we constructivists also believe in what makes for strong and healthy children for BUILDING the next generation. It is proven that successful families are key to that, but then there is also the question of education. I have proposals for that too.

So, there's three, and I've got more. :-)

The point is that by taking this constructivist stance, we automatically broaden our appeal without needing to suck up to the constituencies for these ideas such that they to try to take over, for example, by making demands on "social issues." Instead of being against, it is a stance of ideas to advocate. They're constructive ideas you know. That's why we're constructivists.

Oh, the left would HATE those constructive ideas? Well, they're merely backward. All they want is to protect big corporations (government employee unions are corporations). What are they but their own kind of conservatives! Reactionaries!! Luddites!!!

It's easy. Just take progressivism and jam it down their throats.

Now, there is a difference between conservatism and constructivism. So before I tell you what it is, see if you can figure it out.

34 posted on 10/22/2014 11:07:21 PM PDT by Carry_Okie (Take the chip and watch them hack your brain.)
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To: Kennard
Laissez-faire policies that create a productive environment for business expansion are not defensive.

By themselves they are: if a political entity, e.g. the Soviet Union wants to have planned economy and GULAG system inside its perimeter, laissez-faire lets them do that. Luckily, there are other factors, such as strategic planning and Christian ethics, that mitigated the problem during the Cold War.

35 posted on 10/23/2014 7:33:36 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: Carry_Okie

Your first example, Google, is a model where participation is controlled by a rigorous interview process and at-will employment afterwards, and whose subsystems, such as buses and cafeteria food are subsidized by advertising revenue.

To replace, say, LA transit, with Googlebus will similarly require a phone screen and a five-hour interview just to get the rider badge, and then regular productivity reviews.


36 posted on 10/23/2014 7:47:51 AM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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To: annalex
To replace, say, LA transit, with Googlebus will similarly require a phone screen and a five-hour interview just to get the rider badge, and then regular productivity reviews.

Google knows a lot more about you than you think they do. With intelligent agents, and your permission, they could do the equivalent with software. As it is, they soon will anyway, which is the down side.

37 posted on 10/23/2014 7:59:09 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (Take the chip and watch them hack your brain.)
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To: NKP_Vet

“In his remarks at the synod’s close, Pope Francis mocked “so-called traditionalists” for their “hostile rigidity.”

And liberals for their progressivness.


38 posted on 10/23/2014 10:07:12 AM PDT by Not gonna take it anymore (If Obama were twice as smart as he is, he would be a wit)
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To: Not gonna take it anymore

And he replaced conservatives with liberals and let liberals control the agenda. What’s the Bible verse “You will know them by their fruits”?


39 posted on 10/23/2014 10:13:46 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: Carry_Okie

I read a portion of your patent documentation. Given its length, it may be more useful to me and others if you could summarize your ‘proposal’ in a couple of paragraphs, updated for the intervening fifteen years since your filing. It strikes me as much like cap and trade without the bad science surrounding the impact of CO2 emissions, with the proviso that I have only read a portion.


40 posted on 10/23/2014 10:49:42 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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