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To: Brian Kopp DPM

Cardinal Martini was for Pope Francis, what Saul Alinsky was for Obama.

Cardinal Martini - “Pope of the Liberal Catholics”

http://on-this-rock.blogspot.com/2012/09/cardinal-martini-pope-of-liberal.html

Cardinal Martini of Milan passed away last week. Many referred to him as the “Pope of liberal Catholics.” He was for abortion, same sex marriage, condoms in Africa, etc. In his last interview before his passing, the Cardinal famously noted that the Church is 200 years behind the times. William Doino on First Things blog has a lovely response:

“Cardinal Martini was vastly underestimating the situation. The Church is not 200 years out of date—it is 2,000 years out of date, and will remain so, for the eternal truths of Jesus Christ are timeless and not subject to the trends of any particular age, however “forward” it thinks it is.”
AMEN Posted by Father John Hollowell Sept 10, 2012


7 posted on 10/23/2014 10:25:44 AM PDT by Dqban22
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To: Dqban22

http://chiesa.espresso.repubblica.it/articolo/1350623?eng=y

http://www.cfnews.org/page88/files/065837621bedf51d45b91a5e75699ef5-174.html


8 posted on 10/23/2014 12:20:12 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ( Regrettably, and by present necessity, more Catholic than the Pope.)
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Archbishop Bruno Forte, the man Pope Francis personally appointed as Spdcial Secretary to the Extraordinary Synod and who inserted the pro homosexual language in the relatio:

http://athanasiuscm.org/2014/10/21/aude-sapere-006-meet-archbishop-bruno-forte/

Excerpt:

Protege of Kasper and Martini

In the hey day of his academic appointments in the 70s, Forte began to run in various other circles, where he met the rector of the Pontifical Biblical Commission, the future Cardinal Archbishop of Milan, Carlo Maria Martini.

A lot of conservatives have forgotten about him, since he has passed on to his reward, and we’re pretty glad of it. Nevertheless we should not forget him, because his influence lives on, right on through this most recent synod. Martini distinguished himself in the post-conciliar years as a strong opponent of religious orthodoxy and a champion of liberals in the curia. He formally denied Humanae Vitae, and strongly opposed it long after it was issued, he believed in religious indifferentism, recognition of same-sex civil unions, basked in the praise of the world, and when exiled to Milan by John Paul II, became even more of a media star by regularly attacking the Church. Martini, as the champion of the liberals, also pushed for changes in the Church’s teaching on divorce and remarriage, and it has been said correctly that the recent synod, while short on the Holy Ghost, is not short on Martini’s ghost. The then Monsignor Bruno Forte was very impressed by Martini’s stardom and became a part of his circle. Whether out of ideological conviction or to ride the Cardinal’s coat tails to fame we don’t know, though Forte would make a name for himself on his own. In 1985, at an Ecclesial conference in Loreto, which was about questions on the Church and government and the Church’s voice in public, Martini declared that the old model of an authoritative Church had to give way to a synodal Church, with no more timeless dogmas but instead, where the Church would adjust her teachings based on the subjective experience of the world. It is this which caused the major break between Martini and John Paul II, who opposed Martini’s vision. The keynote address at this conference, in ’85, was given by none other than Monsignor Bruno Forte, in full support of Martini’s program. Little wonder we see him today actively doing this same thing at the synod.

His relationship and proximity to Martini blossomed into a lifelong friendship, for, when Martini was dying, Forte frequently visited him. Forte has just recently written a book commemorating Martini for the second anniversary of his death, loaded with glowing praise for him, titled Cardinale Carlo Maria Martini, fedele alla storia, fedele alla eterna, “Cardinal Martini, faithful to history, faithful to the Lord. He he said “I speak of him with a heavy heart adding that the effort of objectivity affection, gratitude and deep admiration.”iMoreover, Forte tells us in his own words about his relationship with Martini: [Audio from Australian lecture].

This glowing book and these gracious words of course, are not disturbed by the novissima verba of the late Cardinal Martini, who in his last interview, said: “The church is tired, in the Europe of well-being and in America. Our culture has become old, our churches and our religious houses are big and empty, the bureaucratic apparatus of the church grows, our rites and our dress are pompous. Do these things, however, express what we are today? … Well-being weighs on us. We find ourselves like the rich young man who went away sad when Jesus called him to be his disciple. I know that we can’t let everything go easily. At least, however, we can seek people who are free and closest to their neighbor, like Archbishop Romero and the Jesuit martyrs of El Salvador. Where are the heroes among us who can inspire us? By no means do we have to limit them by the boundaries of the institution….The question of whether the divorced can receive communion ought to be turned around. How can the church reach people who have complicated family situations, bringing them help with the power of the sacraments?…The church is 200 years behind the times. Why doesn’t it stir? Are we afraid? Is it fear rather than courage?” (Source) In other words, everything in the Church is wrong, unless we discard dogma and surrender to the world. This is the man, whom Forte himself tells us, he calls every week and looks to as a father.


9 posted on 10/23/2014 12:36:43 PM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM ( Regrettably, and by present necessity, more Catholic than the Pope.)
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