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"For Francis, a resounding defeat: Traditionalists have won a huge victory."
http://rorate-caeli.blogspot.com ^ | October 19, 2014

Posted on 10/19/2014 8:59:01 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

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To: NKP_Vet

Yeah,
But them fags got money.
Can’t believe the Catholic church would turn their collective backs on money?


21 posted on 10/20/2014 5:19:03 AM PDT by Joe Boucher (The F.B.I. Is a division of holders Justice Dept. (Nuff said))
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To: lewislynn

Catholics that live the faith do not vote for baby killing politicians. Catholics-in-name-only do. The exact same thing happens in protestant faiths.


22 posted on 10/20/2014 5:32:24 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: NKP_Vet

Can’t the pope just say screw all of you and do what he wants? He’s like a king, right?


23 posted on 10/20/2014 7:02:47 AM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: lewislynn

“social gospel”
“collective salvation”

Very non-Christian beliefs that many hold to.


24 posted on 10/20/2014 7:05:27 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: NKP_Vet

They can call it a victory but is it really?

The fact that they even had to consider gay marriage is a sign of doom for any Church.

The Socialist Party of America was brought about by a merger between the democratic-socialist political party and the Socialist Labor Party who won over 900,000 votes in 1912 and kept getting more popular until the 1940s.

Now people will say that America has won a victory over socialism because the socialist party flopped, when the truth is that since the Roosevelt Presidential years the democrat party has given the socialists what they wanted and more.

The same with the Church

The Catholic Church is the biggest Church in the world, the fact that this matter of same sex marriage was even considered tells the people they have to go no where else.

They can have what they want by just staying where they are, why have a small mountain or rock to hide them from the face of God if they can have a big one?


25 posted on 10/20/2014 7:53:54 AM PDT by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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“The Catholic Church is the biggest Church in the world, the fact that this matter of same sex marriage was even considered tells the people they have to go no where else”

Can you show me in any of the reports that came out where same-sex “marriage” was considered? You’re wrong. Even the most liberal/progressive bishops know what Catholic Doctrine says and would never discuss same-sex “marriage” in any way, shape or form. Show me where the word “marriage” was used to describe homosexual relationships.


26 posted on 10/20/2014 8:15:43 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: NKP_Vet
Catholics that live the faith do not vote for baby killing politicians. Catholics-in-name-only do.
Sorry to inform you but your Pope appears to be what you describe as " Catholic-in-name-only".
27 posted on 10/20/2014 10:12:00 AM PDT by lewislynn (What does the global warming movement and the Fairtax movement have in common? Disinformation)
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To: NKP_Vet

Can you show me in any of the reports that came out where same-sex “marriage” was considered?


Those were just my words because I have seen it in government many times, a little at a time, almost passed this time, it will pass next time, get people used to the idea and get them bored to the point of not caring either way.

After it passes go a little farther next time.

They are already having Church weddings for homosexuals.

While these weddings may not be held in the Catholic church they are being held in the Churches which are the daughters of the Catholic church.

The Catholics Claim to be the successor’s of St peter which gives them the right to interpret scripture as they see it.

That being the case their daughters can do the same thing and are doing it, they are following the leadership of their mother.

There are many people in both Government and Church who want to destroy the principles which are based on Gods word.

It would be pretty hard for them to do that by going to the Bible, but they do not have to try to disprove the bible.

Since the Church is widely excepted as God`s earthly authority all they have to do is get their people excepted as members in the Church or dilute the minds of those already in there and then all it takes is a vote, maybe next time.

The early Church weeded out the undesirables from their membership, read acts 5, and it was about more than just money.

But the Churches today takes any one into their number, (membership ) read 1 Timothy 5: 9 through 16 and consider that widows are not the only thing that is important in this matter.

If the early Church had of considered membership as they do today the Church would have been involved in so many pagan rituals that it could not have with stood the storm.

Jesus just wanted a few good men as members to preach the gospel, the rest of us is to receive the gospel and do our best to live by it.


28 posted on 10/20/2014 10:26:51 AM PDT by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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“While these weddings may not be held in the Catholic church they are being held in the Churches which are the daughters of the Catholic church”

There is only one Catholic Church, she has no daughters or brothers. Some protestant faiths allow homosexual “unions” and have openly homosexual “pastors” preaching the gospel. It will never happen in the Catholic Church. Doctrine does not change. Faiths that allow this abomination are not Catholic and have no magisterium, which is the authority that lays down what is the authentic teaching of the Church.
Doctrine does change for the times. It is the Word of God.


29 posted on 10/20/2014 1:13:33 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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To: NKP_Vet

Meant to say “Doctrine does not change for the times”. The Word of God, the teachings of Jesus Christ, are what doctrine are based on.


30 posted on 10/20/2014 1:15:10 PM PDT by NKP_Vet ("PRO FIDE, PRO UTILITATE HOMINUM")
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It will never happen in the Catholic Church.


I can say truthfully that I hope them are not just the proverbial famous last words.


31 posted on 10/20/2014 1:34:38 PM PDT by ravenwolf (` know if an other temple will be built or not but the)
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