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Some Mormons pushing church on gay marriage
Breitbart's Big Government / The Associated Press ^ | October 12, 2014

Posted on 10/12/2014 8:17:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

SALT LAKE CITY (AP) — Court decisions this week paving the way for same-sex marriage to become legal in dozens of states, including Mormon strongholds like Utah, Idaho and Nevada, have emboldened a growing group of Latter-day Saints who are pushing the conservative church to become more accepting of gay members.

The church's stance toward gays has softened considerably since it was one of the leading forces behind California's ban on gay marriage in 2008, but high-ranking leaders have reiterated time and again the faith's opposition to same-sex unions....

(Excerpt) Read more at breitbart.com ...


TOPICS: Current Events; Moral Issues; Other Christian; Religion & Culture; Religion & Politics
KEYWORDS: gaymarriage; homosexualagenda; lds; mormons; ssm
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So will Adam and Steve also be able to marry Chad and Bruce?
1 posted on 10/12/2014 8:17:29 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“So will Adam and Steve also be able to marry Chad and Bruce?”

Probably Warren Jeffs.


2 posted on 10/12/2014 8:20:13 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Now Heather can have not only 2 mommies, but also 5 daddies. Heck, now she can have a whole village to raise her.


3 posted on 10/12/2014 8:25:38 PM PDT by Politicalkiddo (Power always thinks.. that it is doing God's service when it is violating all his laws. -John Adams)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

no church can ever endorse homosexuality, never going to happen.

the word of God is pretty clear on this issue.


4 posted on 10/12/2014 8:33:16 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009 (Obama lied .. the economy died.)
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Who cares what some members do. Especially the drivel that comes out of the anti Mormon SL Tribune.

The Church issued this statement the day the Supreme Court had their indecision, and the snowball effect it caused.

“SALT LAKE CITY —
The succession of federal court decisions in recent months, culminating in today’s announcement by the Supreme Court, will have no effect on the doctrinal position or practices of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, which is that only marriage between a man and a woman is acceptable to God. In prizing freedom of conscience and Constitutional guarantees of the free exercise of religion, we will continue to teach that standard and uphold it in our religious practices.

Nevertheless, respectful coexistence is possible with those with differing values. As far as the civil law is concerned, the courts have spoken. Church leaders will continue to encourage our people to be persons of good will toward all, rejecting persecution of any kind based on race, ethnicity, religious belief or non-belief, and differences in sexual orientation.”

5 posted on 10/12/2014 8:34:05 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Mosiah 29:27. Look it up.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Catholic: “I wear briefs for support.”
Baptist: “I wear boxers for comfort.”
Mormon: “Hey! How about those Royals?”


6 posted on 10/12/2014 8:34:07 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

Haven’t Episcopalians already don that?


7 posted on 10/12/2014 8:34:38 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: Army Air Corps

don = done


8 posted on 10/12/2014 8:37:25 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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Further, the day before, in LDS General Conference, one of the Quorum of the 12 said this in his talk, talking directly the issue of Same Sex Marriage.

"Like the Savior, His followers are sometimes confronted by sinful behavior, and today when they hold out for right and wrong as they understand it, they are sometimes called “bigots” or “fanatics.” Many worldly values and practices pose such challenges to Latter-day Saints. Prominent among these today is the strong tide that is legalizing same-sex marriage in many states and provinces in the United States and Canada and many other countries in the world. "…

"...Even as we seek to be meek and to avoid contention, we must not compromise or dilute our commitment to the truths we understand. We must not surrender our positions or our values. The gospel of Jesus Christ and the covenants we have made inevitably cast us as combatants in the eternal contest between truth and error. There is no middle ground in that contest."

https://www.lds.org/general-conference/2014/10/loving-others-and-living-with-differences?lang=eng

9 posted on 10/12/2014 8:40:12 PM PDT by Ripliancum (Mosiah 29:27. Look it up.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

And this may be the crux of the issue going forward.

It seems clear that homosexual marriage is here to stay in our civil laws, and will be imposed on all 50 states eventually.

But will churches be sued over not participating in homosexual marriage, in their doctrines not allowing same, in their doctrines calling it sinful behavior?

I hope that the liberals don’t start suing churches over the issue of homosexual marriage. I see no need for them to do so, because most liberals are irreligious, and if they adhere to their own standards of tolerance and live and let live, this should be a non-issue to them.


10 posted on 10/12/2014 8:41:08 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego (s)
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>>>Heck, now she can have a whole village to raise her.

Sounds familiar...


11 posted on 10/12/2014 8:48:41 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: Dilbert San Diego

Just as bakers and photographers have been hounded, so shall the churches be persecuted.


12 posted on 10/12/2014 8:49:32 PM PDT by Army Air Corps (Four Fried Chickens and a Coke)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sin acceptable by that church, then that church should not be attended IMO.


13 posted on 10/12/2014 8:51:33 PM PDT by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God Bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Homosexuality is so insanely nasty and distasteful to me that even after all that has happened I still cannot imagine why anyone supports it.


14 posted on 10/12/2014 8:53:09 PM PDT by Penny 4 Thoughts
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To: TexasFreeper2009

I find it humorous that “respectable” churches and center-right commentators are now endorsing gay marriage. The pretense was that they were not on board with it all along.

The true church has been a clandestine institution for most of human history.


15 posted on 10/12/2014 8:55:24 PM PDT by oblomov
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Even conservative news outlets get it wrong. It wasn’t a ban on gay marriage, it was defending the word marriage from being reinterpreted. Marriage is the union of one man and one woman in matrimony. Nothing about gay anywhere in it.


16 posted on 10/12/2014 8:55:29 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: TexasFreeper2009

The direction taken here is to refrain from suggesting that people engaging in homosexual acts should be physically attacked (as was implied in the past under some circumstances) and also the emphasis on defining the behavior as homosexual, not the person.


17 posted on 10/12/2014 9:02:27 PM PDT by Burkean (.)
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To: Burkean

The Mormon church was suggesting that homosexuals caught in flagrante delicto should be physically attacked?
Cool! That’s really medieval old school ...

They can “emphasize” it any way they want, but the behavior is homosexual and an individual participating in homosexual acts is at least a homosexual—but could quite as well possibly fall into a number of other queerly diverse classifications; e.g. gathers/sniffs navel lint.


18 posted on 10/12/2014 9:17:31 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives.)
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To: Politicalkiddo; Chode
vancome lady photo: vancome lady vancome.jpg "Okay it takes a village to raise a child, not the Village People" ----Vancome Lady
19 posted on 10/12/2014 9:29:20 PM PDT by Morgana ( Always a bit of truth in dark humor.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’m honestly surprised that the modern LDS church didn’t push sodomite marriage sooner (the FLDS are a bunch of Islamists who care little about their political image, though). Mitt Romney, Harry Reid, Glenn Beck, and the other degenerates of that church want to marry multiple wives in accordance with Mormon tradition and scripture, and recognize that their best chance of being allowed to do so is to destroy the sanctity of marriage.


20 posted on 10/12/2014 10:51:28 PM PDT by Objective Scrutator (All liberals are criminals, and all criminals are liberals)
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