Posted on 10/03/2014 5:23:55 PM PDT by ebb tide
“And I say to you, that whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and he that shall marry her that is put away, committeth adultery.”
- Jesus (Matthew 19:9)
“It’s now a new situation of a marriage. They are living together, they love each other, and to say every sexual act is sinful, that’s different. If you tell people who do it this way, and they do it in a responsible way, to tell them that’s adultery, permanent adultery, I think they would feel insulted and offended.”
- Cardinal Walter Kasper, CNS News Interview, October, 2014
It is difficult to understand how a Catholic Cardinal could take it upon himself to contradict the explicit teaching of Christ.
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As long as they say three Hail Mary’s before and five Our Father’s afterwards, it’s OK, right?
Kasper and some of his German cohorts are anything but Catholic. Glad to read that he is getting his comeuppance from several non-German Bishops/Archbishops/Cardinals as well as Fr. Joe Fessio, editor of Ignatius Press, who rather directly advised Kasper to shove it.
"But I say unto you, That whosoever shall put away his wife, saving for the cause of fornication, causeth her to commit adultery: and whosoever shall marry her that is divorced committeth adultery" (Mt. 5:32 DRB).
"And I say unto you, Whosoever shall put away his wife, except it be for fornication, and shall marry another, committeth adultery: and whoso marrieth her which is put away doth commit adultery" (Mt. 19:9 DRB).
"And he saith unto them, Whosoever shall put away his wife, and marry another, committeth adultery against her.
And if a woman shall put away her husband, and be married to another, she committeth adultery" (Mar_10:11,12 DRB).
"Whosoever putteth away his wife, and marrieth another, committeth adultery: and whosoever marrieth her that is put away from her husband committeth adultery" (Lk. 16:18 DRB).
Re Adultery:
"Thou knowest the commandments, Do not commit adultery, Do not kill, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Honour thy father and thy mother" (Lk. 18:20 DRB; cf Mt. 19:18, Mk. 10:19).
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In the above, note the "exception clause" as bolded in the verses from Matthew. In fact, this clause only applies to the couple espoused under The Law, the Mosaic Covenant, to those under an agreement to marry after abstinence of the virgin wife for the period of a year (as was Mary the mother of Jesus, and Joseph).
That clause is not effective for those who were married under The Law, after the husband and wife have cohabited, and she either displaying the tokens of her virginity after the first night, or else continuing that connubial state without immediate complaint by the husband of lack of purity (Deut. 22:13-19).
For those under the Covenant of Grace, The New Covenant, Christ's commissions and commands are given by Him in Mark and Luke regarding divorce, and in Matthew, Mark, and Luke as regarding adultery as sin and disobedience, disqualifying person from fellowship with Him, thus denying the boon of the Eucharist.
For the pagan Gentile, who is under the Adamic covenant, the rule is the same: concerning the flesh of one's flesh and bone of one's bone, eternal mutual commitment is expected.
"And Adam said: This now is bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh; she shall be called woman, because she was taken out of man.
Wherefore a man shall leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they shall be two in one flesh" (Gen 2:23-24 DRB; cf Mt. 19:4-6).
Here, "cleave" is in the perfect mood, implying that the physical joining takes place once, with irrevocable consequences intended. Thus conversion to Christianity from paganism of one or both does not negate the fundamental marital commitment. Of course, sin having entered the picture, and physical death, one's commitment now can only be "as long as we both shall live, until death do us part."
There is no wiggle room here. Divorce followed by remarriage is simply remarriage adultery in which, even with children produced, the only Scriptural solution of obedience to Christ is non-optional. It is complete cessation of cohabitation and thus discontinuing adultery; but with, however, under civil law, sustaining the support of the second wife (and their children) in a loving, Ghristian, way.
I believe this places Cardinal Kasper in a Scripturally untenable position, and if he supports Kasper, Francis also.
The Bible says there is ONLY ONE UNFORGIVABLE SIN AND THAT IS BLASPHEMY AGAINST THE HOLY SPIRIT....therefore quit trying to interpret God and what he actually meant.
So we just throw out the New Testament Scripture from I Corinthians Chapter 7:15
“But if the unbeliever leaves, let him do so. A believing man or woman is not bound (marriage bond) in such circumstances; God has called us to live in peace. How do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?
Seems to me Catholics only pick the scriptures that back up their dogma and throw the rest away. They can shack up, drink excessively, and sin plenty, just go to the priest and say pennace... it’s okay...however DO NOT MARRY IF YOU DON’T HAVE AN ANNULMENT. (sic) UNBELIEVABLE.
Leave or not, you are both still married. And even though man's law can give you a civil divorce as well as ability to remarry under civil law, that does not cancel the Scriptural and spiritual condition concluded under the laws of God from the beginning. To follow the civil law only makes you a follow of secular procedures, not a disciple of The Christ of the Bible.
What you want to do is make Paul's (The Holy Spirit's) rendition clash with the absolute command of Christ. Sorry, you just have mistranslated, misinterpreted, and misapplied 1 Cor. 7:15 and following. That verse does not disagree with the broader context, when correctly interpreted and applied.
How do I know? I know because after I was saved, my wife divorced me in 1972, and it was a very bitter one. By obeying Jesus' commands as given in the Scriptures cited, I obtained custody of my children, raised them myself, and have remained unmarried since. My Heavenly Father has more than made up in spiritual blessings and fellowship with His Son that would never have been obtained by disobeying Him. And after 40 years, my wife (who remarried another drunk, who died and left her with almost nothing) are on forgiveness grounds, and speaking with concern for each other. She, too, has turned to the Savior for solace, salvation, and security.
And, oh, by the way, I'm neither Catholic, nor Orthodox, nor Reformed. The Bible and Its Author, The Lord Jesus Christ have been my guides, together with other wise non-denominational Christian brethren, FYI. But I do agree with the Catholics on contraception, right to life, and the remarriage adultery issue.
Your unscriptural opinion is not unusual. Blasphemy against the Holy Spirit IS refusing to acknowledge and confess your errors when He points them out to you, and your response here is one of them. Sin unconfessed is unforgivable; but when you do confess, make amends, and abandon it, God also forgives/abandons it, and cleanses you from all unrighteousness through the shed Blood of Jesus Christ (1 Jn. 1:9).
In this thread, I didn't interpret God, I just summed up what He said and meant. Your opposition to it is kind of interesting, isn't it?
You have no knowledge of God’s word....because you do not even know what blashemy of the Holy Spirit is, sheesh!
Mmm. Have you read 1 John 1:9? What does "all unrighteousness" mean to you?
I stand by what I said....ciao
. . . or fall by it. So do I. It's a free country, and so is this forum. Tell me when your approach works for you. I already know how it works for me, and for many others I've observed.
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