[MarineBrat]

As a combination Christian and “hard” scientist I must say that devil worship must require a special kind of stupid.

A sane agnostic would say that he doesn’t know if there’s a God, but he hopes that there is.

A sane atheist would say that he doesn’t believe there’s a God, but he hopes that he’s wrong.

If you could supply proof of the existence of a devil then you have proved the existence of God. Thus, believers in the devil MUST believe in God.

If someone believes in God, and they purposely poke a stick in his eye, they are indeed a special kind of stupid.

[Mrs. Don-o]

You know, that's really well-said.

I have long thought that the presence of diabolical evil furnishes evidence for the existence of God. There is no reason, and no way, that blind deterministic materialist forces could produce diabolical evil. There must be a transcendent spiritual dimension.

And if there is a transcendent spiritual dimension, the demons can't be the only ones "there" --- because if they were, everything would be evil.

So you get right back to the sound reasonable inferences of Aquinas, Anselm and even Newman. And when I say "reasonable" I don't mean narrow mathematical proof: I mean that which intricately fits the human ways of knowing.

[Bigg Red]

Very good points.

[tiki]

I’ve watched the series “Naked and Afraid” a few times and there have been several people who invoke the Universe, as in “Universe please help me”.

Obviously there is a belief in something beyond themselves but the Universe?

[NorthMountain]

If someone believes in God, and they purposely poke a stick in his eye, they are indeed a special kind of stupid.

Evil is stupid. That doesn't mean evil people, and evil spirits aren't intelligent, crafty, clever etc ... but evil, distilled, is stupid.