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1. the spiritual nation is all God is concerned with. the writer of this article completely misses the point of Ephesians 2. v12 says the Gentiles were once “alienated from the commonwealth of Israel” and then in v19 it says they now are fellow citizens and members of the household of God. this “household of God”, the “commonwealth of Israel” is better known as The Church, or Body of Christ. in which, of course, there is neither Jew nor Greek.
2. “prophetically reinstated in the land”, I hear this a lot, where do you believe it states in the Scriptures this would happen?
3. “worship the One True God”... Jesus Christ is God Almighty, hopefully you agree with that. Are the majority of Jews in the country of Israel worshipping Jesus Christ?
if no, they are not worshipping the one true God.
no one comes to the Father except through Him.
4. God’s will is that all men come to faith in Jesus Christ and be saved, yet you state that the Jews have been “preserved” by some covenant you think He made with them. He did make a new covenant in His Son’s blood which they for the most part reject. Do you believe these Jews who have been “preserved” can be saved outside of Christ?


17 posted on 09/21/2014 6:31:28 PM PDT by one Lord one faith one baptism
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To: one Lord one faith one baptism
1. the spiritual nation is all God is concerned with. the writer of this article completely misses the point of Ephesians 2. v12 says the Gentiles were once “alienated from the commonwealth of Israel” and then in v19 it says they now are fellow citizens and members of the household of God. this “household of God”, the “commonwealth of Israel” is better known as The Church, or Body of Christ. in which, of course, there is neither Jew nor Greek1. the spiritual nation is all God is concerned with. the writer of this article completely misses the point of Ephesians 2. v12 says the Gentiles were once “alienated from the commonwealth of Israel” and then in v19 it says they now are fellow citizens and members of the household of God. this “household of God”, the “commonwealth of Israel” is better known as The Church, or Body of Christ. in which, of course, there is neither Jew nor Greek

Not even close...When you invent a theology it's pretty easy to take a verse and make things up with it...

The church is never called Israel in the scriptures or the commonwealth of Israel...By this time the church, Christians are called-Christians...NOT the commonwealth of Israel...

Just prior to that salvation was offered only to Jews, the commonwealth of Israel (prior to Peter's revelation)...

Act 11:19 Now they which were scattered abroad upon the persecution that arose about Stephen travelled as far as Phenice, and Cyprus, and Antioch, preaching the word to none but unto the Jews only.

When a Jew believed on the Lord Jesus Christ he was put into Jesus Christ...Spiritually or religiously he was no longer a Jew or Israel but a Christian...

When a Gentile believed on the Lord Jesus Christ he was put into Jesus Christ as well...

Eph 2:14 For he is our peace, who hath made both one, and hath broken down the middle wall of partition between us;

Gentiles did not become Israel and Israel did not become Gentiles...We are both made one, i.e, Christians...

29 posted on 09/22/2014 3:48:58 AM PDT by Iscool
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3. “worship the One True God”... Jesus Christ is God Almighty, hopefully you agree with that. Are the majority of Jews in the country of Israel worshipping Jesus Christ? if no, they are not worshipping the one true God.

Joh 12:38 That the saying of Esaias the prophet might be fulfilled, which he spake, Lord, who hath believed our report? and to whom hath the arm of the Lord been revealed?
Joh 12:39 Therefore they could not believe, because that Esaias said again,
Joh 12:40 He hath blinded their eyes, and hardened their heart; that they should not see with their eyes, nor understand with their heart, and be converted, and I should heal them.

Of course they are worshiping the one true God...They are the only group of people on earth who had their eyes and minds blinded about Jesus Christ by God...

Others who reject Jesus make a personal decision not to...Israel has no option (except for a few)...

But then you may be in that group who's mind has been blinded by the Devil...

2Co 4:1 Therefore seeing we have this ministry, as we have received mercy, we faint not;
2Co 4:2 But have renounced the hidden things of dishonesty, not walking in craftiness, nor handling the word of God deceitfully; but by manifestation of the truth commending ourselves to every man's conscience in the sight of God.
2Co 4:3 But if our gospel be hid, it is hid to them that are lost:
2Co 4:4 In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

Can you prove your Catholic Tradition is true??? Bible tells you to prove all things...

Isa 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them.

sa 30:8 Now go, write it before them in a table, and note it in a book, that it may be for the time to come for ever and ever:
Isa 30:9 That this is a rebellious people, lying children, children that will not hear the law of the LORD:

30 posted on 09/22/2014 4:30:16 AM PDT by Iscool
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>> “ the spiritual nation is all God is concerned with” <<

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True, but that spiritual nation is stated by Yeshua to be “the lost sheep of the House of Israel.”

That phrase stands for the northern tribes throught all of scripture. (He changeth not)

The Ephesians, like all of the congregations to whom Paul preached, were descendents of the people that became “Not a people,” and were prophesied to again become his people. This was prophesied in the book of Hosea.

Peter’s first epistle was written to these same “strangers” whom he told that they were to again be Yehova’s people.

You disregard most of the prophecies of the ancient scriptures to arrive at these looney proclamations of yours.
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64 posted on 09/22/2014 9:47:52 PM PDT by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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