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1 posted on 09/03/2014 6:03:44 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: BlatherNaut; piusv; Legatus; Heart-Rest

Ping


2 posted on 09/03/2014 6:04:51 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Wow! That is “unexpected” LOL!


3 posted on 09/03/2014 6:07:07 PM PDT by Klemper
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To: ebb tide
Rather, it seems that often Francis does not quite know what he wants to say, but he says it anyway.

That sums it up. I think he means well, but he's an 80s kind of guy - not heretical, just given to vague thinking. When you think that once upon a time, Jesuits were famed for their rigor...

4 posted on 09/03/2014 6:07:13 PM PDT by livius
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To: ebb tide

Yahsua had a Christian identity? Help me out here. Christ having a Christ identity?


5 posted on 09/03/2014 6:12:00 PM PDT by SkyDancer (I Was Told Nobody Is Perfect But Yet, Here I Am)
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To: ebb tide

does the pope drink a lot of communion wine these days?


6 posted on 09/03/2014 6:16:33 PM PDT by MeshugeMikey ("Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill ...)
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It seems that not a day passes without Pope Francis’s off-the-cuff homilies and remarks producing a theological embarrassment: Mary “perhaps” felt tricked by God when she saw Her son on the Cross (“Lies! I was cheated!”), Christ merely pretended to be angry with this disciples (“Jesus does not become angry, but pretends to”), Matthew clung to his money when Christ called him (“No, not me! No, this money is mine!”), rather than immediately heeding Our Lord’s call as the Gospel records (Matt. 9:9-13)­—and so on and so forth, day in and day out.

Just yesterday Francis, resuming his morning Masses at Casa Santa Marta, opined in yet another improvised homily that “The authority of Jesus­—and the authority of the Christian—comes from this ability to understand the things of the Spirit, to speak the language of the Spirit. It is from this anointing of the Holy Spirit.” No, the authority of Jesus comes from His divinity, not from any “anointing of the Holy Spirit” to be equated with “the authority of the Christian” in general.

Even more stupefying, Francis went on to declare: “Lord grant us Christian identity, which You had. Grant us Your Spirit. Grant us Your way of thinking, feeling, speaking: May the Lord grant us the anointing of the Holy Spirit.” What could Francis possibly have been thinking when he ascribed to Christ Himself a “Christian identity,” as if the Second Person of the Holy Trinity had acquired this “identity” from the influence of the Holy Spirit.

Someone give this pope a sitcom!

8 posted on 09/03/2014 6:24:54 PM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: ebb tide
Rather, it seems that often Francis does not quite know what he wants to say, but he says it anyway.

Perhaps the problem is that you don't understand what he is saying. It's all rather simple really. Don't read into it too much.

12 posted on 09/03/2014 6:33:48 PM PDT by Cry if I Wanna
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To: ebb tide

Sounds like your pope has a hard time being a Catholic...Sometimes he even sounds like a Christian...


13 posted on 09/03/2014 6:46:27 PM PDT by Iscool
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To: ebb tide

Putz.


14 posted on 09/03/2014 6:46:29 PM PDT by sitetest (If Roe is not overturned, no unborn child will ever be protected in law.)
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To: ebb tide

This guy Francis should be writing for TV sitcoms and late night comedians.


17 posted on 09/03/2014 7:23:50 PM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: ebb tide

Do we have an accurate translation? If not, this is a worthless article.


21 posted on 09/03/2014 8:22:04 PM PDT by Steelfish (ui)
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To: ebb tide
From the article:

This really isn’t a question of heresy. Rather, it seems that often Francis does not quite know what he wants to say, but he says it anyway.

When will the incessant, blind benefit of the doubt end? This man knows exactly what he wants to say.

25 posted on 09/04/2014 2:31:22 AM PDT by piusv
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To: ebb tide

Here Catholics with “five degrees in theology” are pitted against “simple old women… who can speak to us of things better than any theologian, because they have the Spirit of Christ.”


Might be exaggerated some but I believe he makes a good point.

We might ask our selves why it would take some one with a masters degree to understand scripture written by or given by some one who probably did not go any farther than what we would call grade school.


26 posted on 09/04/2014 6:28:04 AM PDT by ravenwolf (nd)
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To: ebb tide

He was a Jew.


31 posted on 09/06/2014 8:21:46 AM PDT by onedoug
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