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To: fso301; daniel1212; Elsie; All
I think it safer to say Mormons are not mainstream Christians. Belief in the Trinity is not a condition for salvation and scriptural support for the Trinity is not as strong as many assume it to be.

Mormons are polytheists who also believe that they themselves will become gods after death, provided they are holy enough, which is clearly condemned throughout the entirety of the scripture, such as when God declares "Is there a God beside me? Nay, there is no God; I know not any" (Isa 44:8). There is no "gray" area between the historical belief in one God by Jews and Christians for more than two thousand years and the Mormon belief in many gods. Furthermore, to hold to a false Gospel is damning. The Apostle teaches that whoever preaches a different Gospel than what he has delivered to us, "let him be accursed" (Gal 1:8). Similarly, the Apostles also condemn those who wish 'God speed' to those who teach false gospels, so that even those who apologize for the enemies of Christ, though they themselves may claim to not be of them, also share in the guilt (2 John 1:10-11).

The Trinity is also not obscure, but a clear and present reality in the scripture. Nor do Christians tolerate those who refuse to affirm the Trinity and who give succor to those who deny it, although they themselves pretend to be "moderate" Christians. There is no option for being neither hot nor cold when it comes to the essentials of the Christian faith, but instead an active confession is required (Rom 10:9, Rev 3:15-16). If you hold yourself in a position where you neither affirm or deny such an important question as whether the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are a trinity, then you are damned, as you have no love for truth and, therefore, lack evidence of the drawing of the Holy Spirit, who works infallibly to bring all that the Father has given to the Son into the Son's arms (John 6:37).

51 posted on 07/03/2014 11:49:36 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans
...provided they are holy enough...

WORTHY enough...


 

Temple Recommend Questions



1 Do you have faith in and a testimony of God the Eternal Father, His Son Jesus Christ, and the Holy Ghost?

2 Do you have a testimony of the Atonement of Christ and of His role as Savior and Redeemer?

3 Do you have a testimony of the restoration of the gospel in these the latter days?

4 Do you sustain the President of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints as the Prophet, Seer, and Revelator and as the only person on the earth who possesses and is authorized to exercise all priesthood keys? Do you sustain members of the First Presidency and the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles as prophets, seers, and revelators? Do you sustain the other General Authorities and local authorities of the Church?

5 Do you live the law of chastity?

6 Is there anything in your conduct relating to members of your family that is not in harmony with the teachings of the Church?

7 Do you support, affiliate with, or agree with any group or individual whose teachings or practices are contrary to or oppose those accepted by the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

8 Do you strive to keep the covenants you have made, to attend your sacrament and other meetings, and to keep your life in harmony with the laws and commandments of the gospel?

9 Are you honest in your dealings with your fellowmen?

10 Are you a full-tithe payer?

11 Do you keep the Word of Wisdom?

12 Do you have financial or other obligations to a former spouse or children? If yes, are you current in meeting those obligations?

13 If you have previously received your temple endowment:

Do you keep the covenants that you made in the temple?
Do you wear the garment both night and day as instructed in the endowment and in accordance with the covenant you made in the temple?

14 Have there been any sins or misdeeds in your life that should have been resolved with priesthood authorities but have not been?

15 Do you consider yourself worthy to enter the Lord's house and participate in temple ordinances?

76 posted on 07/04/2014 5:07:24 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans; daniel1212; Elsie
Mormons are polytheists who also believe that they themselves will become gods after death, provided they are holy enough, which is clearly condemned throughout the entirety of the scripture, such as when God declares "Is there a God beside me? Nay, there is no God; I know not any" (Isa 44:8). There is no "gray" area between the historical belief in one God by Jews and Christians for more than two thousand years and the Mormon belief in many gods. Furthermore, to hold to a false Gospel is damning. The Apostle teaches that whoever preaches a different Gospel than what he has delivered to us, "let him be accursed" (Gal 1:8). Similarly, the Apostles also condemn those who wish 'God speed' to those who teach false gospels, so that even those who apologize for the enemies of Christ, though they themselves may claim to not be of them, also share in the guilt (2 John 1:10-11).

Thank you but I'll defer direct response to your first paragraph simply in order to maintain focus of the topic at hand which is the Trinity. In another thread when I have more time I'd be happy to broaden the discussion.

The Trinity is also not obscure, but a clear and present reality in the scripture.

Please cite the verse that you believe makes it so clear.

Nor do Christians tolerate those who refuse to affirm the Trinity and who give succor to those who deny it, although they themselves pretend to be "moderate" Christians. There is no option for being neither hot nor cold when it comes to the essentials of the Christian faith, but instead an active confession is required (Rom 10:9, Rev 3:15-16). If you hold yourself in a position where you neither affirm or deny such an important question as whether the Father, Son and Holy Spirit are a trinity, then you are damned,

Please show me the scripture which says that. In your first paragraph you strongly condemned anyone spreading a false gospel so, show me the scripture that places salvation subject to belief in the Trinity. If your bible contains such scripture in it's gospel message, please include the type bible and translation.

86 posted on 07/04/2014 8:08:29 AM PDT by fso301
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