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Want to Start an Argument (among Catholics)? Just Say “Yoga”
Catholic Stand ^ | January 19, 2014 | Patti Maguire Armstrong

Posted on 07/01/2014 4:20:15 PM PDT by NYer

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To: NYer

Johnny Knoxville goes to yoga class:

http://rutube.ru/video/a801ceceaffadc4ef4342b23e107a26c/


21 posted on 07/01/2014 5:03:12 PM PDT by Carthego delenda est
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To: NYer

I’ve never been a big fan of yoga .

It’s basically just sour milk ... tastes nasty even with the fruit on the bottom.


22 posted on 07/01/2014 5:04:32 PM PDT by NorthMountain
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To: reefdiver

What’s more important? Anxiety or your immortal soul?


23 posted on 07/01/2014 5:04:52 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Carthego delenda est

I want to see “Bad Grandpa” go to Pilates now.


24 posted on 07/01/2014 5:05:43 PM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Hot Tabasco

When you throw in looking at woman wearing yoga pants now I’m going to hell for sure.


25 posted on 07/01/2014 5:09:18 PM PDT by Blackirish
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To: posterchild

i’d use “thank you Jesus” and watch their ‘tolerant’ heads explode.


26 posted on 07/01/2014 5:09:42 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man ( Gone Galt; Not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: NYer

Yoga is one of many practices that Christians should avoid. Tarot, crystal balls, horoscopes, fortunetellers, all of that stuff. We’re not to look for answers and solutions except from God.


27 posted on 07/01/2014 5:11:11 PM PDT by firebrand
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To: NYer

In regard to the title, some arguments just start on their own. I get enough action just giving Bible quotes without trying to start any trouble.


28 posted on 07/01/2014 5:15:52 PM PDT by BipolarBob (Obama - The Scandal a Week President.)
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To: Blackirish

29 posted on 07/01/2014 5:16:20 PM PDT by EEGator
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To: NYer

A few years ago, a Catholic friend asked my opinion about yoga, and she thought I was nuts when I said I preferred to stay away because of its pagan origins.

Besides, I believe kickboxing or weight training or even fast walking are all better workouts that bending yourself around on a mat.


30 posted on 07/01/2014 5:18:02 PM PDT by CatherineofAragon ((Support Christian white males---the architects of the jewel known as Western Civilization).)
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To: Boogieman

You let me worry about that,


31 posted on 07/01/2014 5:18:26 PM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Blackirish
When you throw in looking at woman wearing yoga pants now I’m going to hell for sure.

I think yoga pants do lead to more sins than yoga itself.
32 posted on 07/01/2014 5:20:07 PM PDT by mmichaels1970
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To: NYer
I have never practiced yoga, probably never will. But there is another arena in which I participate, which can skirt the edge of Christian orthopraxis. It is hidden in plain sight by my FReepname: chajin, a Japanese term for someone who practices chanoyu, the tea ceremony. I have been practicing tea ceremony since 1980, and a registered instructor in Omotesenke, which is the most traditional of the tea schools.

Japanese say 禅茶一味 zencha ichimi, "Zen and tea [have] one [and the same] flavor."

But does the tea ceremony have to be Buddhist? Of the seven disciples of Sen no Rikyu, the "originator" of the tea ceremomy, four were Buddhist and three--one of them the nephew of the Japanese ruler Oda Nobunaga--were Christian. Moreover, the Zen temple associated with Omotesenke is the Zuiho-in, the only Zen temple which commemorates a Christian samurai, Otomo Sorin. The temple has two rock gardens: one has a cross shape hidden in the rock placements, at the foot of which is buried a statue of Mary, and the other is an abstract representation of Jesus giving the Sermon on the Mount. Finally, there are ways in which the tea ceremony embodies hidden Christian messages, too numerous to list here; I will simply point out one, that the ritual of the tea ceremony seems to emulate the Sacrament of the Altar.

So can a Christian practice tea ceremony without fear of entering into the realms of Zen Buddhist heterodoxy? Of course s/he can, but it takes some wariness, and some open proclamation of one's faith. My most recent experience of this was teaching the basics of chanoyu to Christian martial arts students. In Japan this would be tantamount to heresy: people study tea or they study karate, but almost never both, and never at the same venue. In the US, however, it makes perfect sense: Christian martial arts teachers emulate Kingley's idea of muscular Christianity, and Christian tea ceremony provides the complementary discipline of learning theosis through reverence and koinonia through harmony.

So my answer to the Christian yogis would be: if you can teach Christian doctrine and practice through yoga, and if you can find some Christian historical connection to yoga--NOT pseudo-Christan "Jesus was Mahavishnu" or similar heresy, but rather something connected to, say, the Thomas churches or the Yashu Bakhti movement--then have at it. But the advice a fellow Christian gave me 34 years ago, when I began my first lessons in tea ceremony, still rings true today: if you EVER feel yourself being pulled away from Christ, leave it IMMEDIATELY, because there are worse things than gaining the whole world, and one of them is losing your own soul.

33 posted on 07/01/2014 5:24:27 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: NYer

Many societal destructions are visited upon us through women breaking out of their roles for just the sake of breaking out

Women should be pilots, dictors, writers, CEOs and anything else they want to be, the PM of Great Britain, for instance. And they should have full respect when they do so. If they’re good at it and if they’re doing it because they’re good at it

But meanwhile, kids all over the western world are deserted without mothers. No one is home

Women do things because others are doing it. Like 15 year olds whose attentive parents would ask, ‘so, if someone told you to jump off of the Brooklyn Bridge, would you do it?’

Oprah Winfrey is a great perpetrator, yet not even she understands the consequences and the power of her massive pied piper spirituality toward women looking to ‘feel better, and about everything, and now, immediately’

Yoga invites spirits. And not angels, guardian angels, saints, not the holy family nor the Holy Spirit It’s poses and positions create a channel for these spirits who are unfriendly to the holy spirits

Many things- activities, foods, drinks, people, etc, make us feel better. Yoga does. That doesn’t mean they’re good. It doesn’t mean they’re not evil

Women devote themselves to yoga. While men continue through this time unglazed by and disinterested in all of this, but continually interested in mesmerizing inconsequential sex, through the objectifying birth control, bowing to it and refusing to stand up to any principal, while women bow to this feel good activity completely oblivious

I’ve seen families scrounging for food on a Sunday morning while mom is at yoga, completely pissed on having to attend mass on Christmas Catholics going back to the 800s in Ireland

Not an image of the blessed mother not a crucifix not a cross in the house

Advising me to take up yoga. They look great, money in the billions ( no stretch) completely unable to not only not handle adversity, immorality, a wrong path, but unable to recognize it

No thanks. The rosary works just fine

Somewhere I read a Vatican release about yoga. Can never locate it

Johnette b or FR Mitch paces must have it somewhere

NYer this actually is very important. It takes the mother out of tge home effectively


35 posted on 07/01/2014 5:26:40 PM PDT by stanne
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To: NYer

All of the Seinfeld style, ‘oh how silly’ comments should tell you the nature of the power of yoga

Nothing wrong with Pilates. It was devised by a euro (French?) md to rehab war vets.


36 posted on 07/01/2014 5:29:45 PM PDT by stanne
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To: NYer
Yogi--The Ivy Three (1960)

I saw a Kook who was standing on his head.
He flipped his lid like he should have been in bed.
I said, "what gives, man?"
He looked at me and said,

"I'm a Yogi, I'm a Yogi, baby.
I'm a Yogi, I'm a Yogi, baby."

Hey, Booboo!

And then the cat started strutting on hot coals.
He was wearing sneaks, but they were so full of holes.
He sang right out from the bottom of his soles,

"I'm a Yogi, I'm a Yogi, baby. I'm a Yogi, I'm a Yogi, baby."

Hey, Booboo!

"Listen here, baby," the Yogi man said,
"It's all a matter of the mind.
Just commune with your innermost being,
Baby, you'll be just fine."

He was hip, all right, wasn't he?

So I tried my best to dig my inner me.
I walked on coals, my head below my knee.
Until at last I heard me say perfectly,

"I'm a Yogi, I'm a Yogi, baby.
I'm a Yogi, I'm a Yogi, baby."

Hey, Booboo!

37 posted on 07/01/2014 5:32:24 PM PDT by Fiji Hill
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To: posterchild

Same as the GRegorian Chants? It is a method to allow introspection, IMHO.


38 posted on 07/01/2014 5:35:12 PM PDT by Ditto
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To: untwist

Catholics do not fear. In fact they, regardless of misconceptions, regard tge bible and Jesus’ words, ‘fear not’

But they are not stupid They know they must follow the will of God who will present them with necessary info, if they pray for it

Staying away from practices which alter spirituality is required, just like not reading bad literature, viewing bad movies. It’s like drinking too much or imbibing in drugs which do nothing good


39 posted on 07/01/2014 5:37:37 PM PDT by stanne
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To: NYer

Well, he was a pretty good baseball player.


40 posted on 07/01/2014 5:41:49 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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