Singer Tim Lambesis Said He Became Atheist But Kept Claiming to Be Christian to Keep Selling Music

Christian Post ^ | 06/17/2014 | Leonardo Blair

[Obadiah]

Huh, I’m not the only one then?

Similarly, I am saddened that so many songs now make the person the focal point of the music. Such as: I am so sad and weary, woe is me, but somehow I must march on and make it through life... make it through life... make it through life...

Sheesh.

[NorthMountain]

Heaping up gratuitous condemnations is a very good way to insulate yourself from the truly spiritual, to miss much of the grace of Christ.

Heaping up gratuitous condemnations seems to be great sport on the FR Religion Forum. I see whole threads dedicated to it ...

[dragonblustar]

I think some of these songs are fine to listen to out of church but as far as worship goes, they are terribly lacking.

[HiTech RedNeck]

An apt word spoken is like... well you look it up. Well chosen music will act as a reflective backdrop to whatever the sermon is going to be that day. How “deep” it is, may not be the most important feature.

[Dagnabitt]

[Nervous Tick]

>> repeating the same lyrics over and over again like some Tibetan chant

You’re referring to “7-11” worship music: 7 words, repeated 11 times.

Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger. I don’t care for it myself. I’m a traditional hymn guy.

This Catholic dude agrees with you (and me) too:

http://blog.adw.org/2014/06/dust-on-the-hymnal-pondering-the-decline-of-hymn-singing-in-american-denominations/

[fwdude]

No, it’s not.

[HiTech RedNeck]

There’s room to chide people to be sincere about what they’re doing (this Lambesis chap wasn’t), but there is a happy balance too. You don’t have to imply that total deviltry is going on somewhere that this is not clearly the case. As Jesus says, don’t judge by appearances, but make a just judgment.

[HiTech RedNeck]

Were you there?

[Talisker]

It's kind of hard to be a Christian and tatted-up pagan at one and the same time... To call a group of people who worship themselves and their capacity for self-reverential “entertainment” “Christian” is becoming increasingly difficult when the objective evidence points to these suburban blights as being neo-paganism in every regard. Where is the altar? There isn’t one. Where is there a Cross? There are no crosses. When is any reference made to Christ’s sacrifice in propitiation and perfect atonement for the sins of the world, including the sins of the latte-sipping dolts sitting in their reclining, triple-cushioned theater-style seats? Where are there any references to personal sin? Where are there any references to objective Truth? There are none – there is only “your truth and my truth”, “How I FEEEEL”, and then BRING ON THE ROCK BAND! — Ann Barnhardt

You and Ann have something in common - righteous rage over "false" Christians through a laundry list of failures, none of which including the word "love."

"Jesus replied: “‘Love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind.’ This is the first and greatest commandment. And the second is like it: ‘Love your neighbor as yourself.’ All the Law and the Prophets hang on these two commandments.”
- Matthew 22:37-40

Which is interesting, because that was a word Jesus was particularly interested in. So if you're going to damn someone for not following Jesus' teachings, I figured that word - love - might be somewhere in your list of assessment issues. But I don't see it anywhere. I wonder what that means? Let's ask Jesus, shall we?

"You hypocrite, first take the plank out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to remove the speck from your brother's eye."
- Matthew 7:5

[darkangel82]

As a metal fan I can applaud Dave for how he lives his life and plays his music even if I don’t share his faith.

[NorthMountain]

You don’t have to imply that total deviltry is going on somewhere that this is not clearly the case.

Yes ... tell that to the regular contributors to the FR Religion Forum.

[fwdude]

Were you?

[Dr. Thorne]

Someone is channeling Apoplectic Ann (Bug-Eyes) Barnhardt.

I go to any church I want and I'm Christian. Some play the organ and some play the guitar. They didn't play organs at the churches founded by Paul. The OT explicitly names instruments that should be played such as the timbrel (a drum) and harp (a stringed instrument). Kinda sounds like super-fun rock-band church, eh?

At least I don't go a church where a man wearing a dress sodomizes boys while the congregation mumbles prayers to dead people like the heathen do.

[IrishBrigade]

Heaping up gratuitous condemnations is a very good way to insulate yourself from the truly spiritual, to miss much of the grace of Christ.

...’cept in this particular case, he’s 100% correct...

[NorthMountain]

Ping to #54.

For example.

[The_Media_never_lie]

Yuck!!!!!!!

[hsrazorback1]

“I Don’t Have Enough Faith To Be An Atheist”. Great book.

As far as using Christianity to peddle goods, he ain’t the first, and he won’t be the last.

[HereInTheHeartland]

“People who go to Super-Fun Rock-Band Church aren’t really Christian, anyway.”

The Bible of course makes no mention of required instruments to be used; and there is no song list included either.
Music is used to praise and worship God. There is no requirement to only use hymns from the time period of 1850 -1950 from red hymnals.

I find it humorous when people somehow think a guitar is somehow not allowed to make music in a church!

The story in this article suggests however that these guys were imposters however.

[IrishBrigade]

Ping to #54.

For example.

...not a good example of the religion forum...most of the Romaphobes comments are much harsher than #54...