Posted on 05/23/2014 7:48:40 AM PDT by BlatherNaut
Nah, that would never happen.
Irish priest Denis Flaherty made a career out of attacking Jews as the origin of "naturalism"(???) and once wrote an anti-Zionist book entitled An Unholy People in the Holy Land. He remains a hero to many right wing Catholics and his books are easily available.
Another rabidly anti-Jewish priest was Fr. Leonard Feeney (father of "Feeneyism"), whose St. Benedict Center still publishes and posts anti-Jewish material, including a little gem entitled "The Chosen People is Now the Accursed Race."
As much as I sympathize with pre-VII Catholicism I have never been under any illusions of their feelings about Jews and Israel. In addition to the above figures from the past the Society of St. Pius X, Gerry Matatics(sp?), and Robert Sungenis are also believers in a Jewish conspiracy. Right wing Catholics seem to assign the role `Amaleq plays in Judaism to `Am Yisra'el even as they usurp the role of "chosen people" for themselves.
Not all Catholics. I am still on the side of the Jews. Of course as my country is going down the drain so is my Church.
Che was a COLD BLOODED KILLER, Robert!
Argue the politics and forget the phony labels.
Unfortunately, that marks you a post-VII liberal Catholic on that issue.
Since the Catholic Church lacks any Biblical sentimentalism, the only philo-Semitism is knows is of the liberal/tolerant/multicultural variety, and it on this that liberal Catholic philo-Semitism is based. Fundamentalist Protestants still see the Jews as the Biblical Children of Israel, so philo-Semitism for them is an orthodox rather than liberal position.
Che was a cold blooded killer, but if I read the article correctly that is not what Robert Spencer is calling the pope. It’s what the pope is calling himself.
That's my point. Your support of Israel is a product of liberal Catholicism. For Catholics, supporting Israel is like supporting abortion or "gay marriage." For Fundamentalist Protestants the exact opposite is true.
But then again, he has not read the famous passage in the Koran about wife-beating:
http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/Quran/003-wife-beating.htm
So post number 10 proves there is plenty of violence promoted in Islam.
Spencer (MA, Religious Studies, University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill) has been studying Islamic theology, law, and history in depth since 1980. As an Adjunct Fellow with the Free Congress Foundation in 2002 and 2003, he wrote a series of monographs on Islam: An Introduction to the Qur’an; Women and Islam; An Islamic Primer; Islam and the West; The Islamic Disinformation Lobby; Islam vs. Christianity; and Jihad in Context. More recently he has also written monographs for the David Horowitz Freedom Center: Islamophobia: Thought Crime of the Totalitarian Future (with David Horowitz); Obama and Islam (with David Horowitz); What Americans Need to Know About Jihad; The Violent Oppression of Women In Islam (with Phyllis Chesler); Islamic Leaders’ Plan for Genocide; and Muslim Persecution of Christians.
Some say that Israel is now Babylon, due to the talmud having been compiled there. I don't believe that. But as a Catholic I do believe that the Catholic Church is the new Israel, the Israel of the New Covenant. If one believes in the divinity of Jesus Christ, it isn't a "usurpation" but a simple fulfilment of the law, the old made new. The Temple veil was torn when Jesus died for a reason, after all.
Thanks, Z.C., for doing Catholics’ thinking for them.
Anyone with a normal reservoir of human decency & the ability to distinguish good from evil should support the state of Israel.
FWIW, I support Israel because it’s an island of good in a sea of Islamic evil (Israeli democracy, equal rights, &prosperity) AND because its existence validates the will of G-d.
Yes, I’m worried about Pope Francis.
I know a girl from high school who is catholic. She went to catholic college, and always talks about being catholic like it was some sort of status symbol.
Anyways, she is the biggest lib I’ve ever known. She not only supports things like abortion but belongs to some of the biggest left wing groups out there. Not only that, she is the mean spirited. If you oppose her, she will get nasty. That always boggled my mind. How could come one be catholic and yet be, what I feel, evil to the core? You’d think the years of going to church, some of the gospel might have sunk in....
Arrg! I am not attacking you! I'm simply pointing out that support or even sympathy for Israel in Catholicism is a liberal, unorthodox, post-VII position. It is not a conservative position for Catholics. I wish that it were, but it is not.
If you are conservative and pro-Israel, then good for you. I wish there were more conservative Catholics who were pro-Israel. But I'm merely pointing out that in orthodox, pre-VII Catholicism the Jews are the villains and their returning to Israel is to build a temple for the "antichrist." And those conservative Catholics who do support Israel do so for reasons of American ideology rather than any theological reason (unlike Fundamentalist Protestants). I wish it were otherwise, I truly do. But it is not.
Why don't you investigate a few traditionalist Catholic web sites and see what I'm talking about?
Would it do any good to point out that these are all beliefs and that they are not self-evidently true? By insisting on reading the Hebrew Bible through the lens of the "new testament" all chrstians are guilty of the logical fallacy of "affirmation of the consequent."
Fundamentalist Protestants, whose only "chrstendom" is Biblical Israel and for whom historical chrstianity is "the great apostasy," have a very different position from yours.
The traditional magisterium (and not only the magisterium of today) is supposed to do Catholics' thinking for them, and until VII liberalism that thinking was decidedly unfriendly to the Jews and the idea of their returning to Israel. These are simple facts for which I am not to blame.
I suggest a tour of a few sites and sources that represent pre-VII Catholicism.
Thank you for supporting Israel, though the western democratic ideology is in grossly in error.
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