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To: Jan_Sobieski
Question: for my replacement theology friends. If the New Covenant nullifies the biblical promises made to the children of Israel, including the Abrahamic Covenant, the Land Covenant, and the Davidic Covenant, why would God honor the covenant with the Church given the great apostasy of our day?

What you-all (in general, not necessarily you in particular) want is it fulfilled in a very particular way, not accepting any other answers.

Abrahamic Covenant

Fulfilled in Christ. Those who are of faith are heirs.

"the Land Covenant"

(Ignoring for the moment that it's not a covenant in its own right, but a part of God's very different covenants with Abraham and through Moses) Romans 4:13, expanded to include the world, applied to Abraham and his seed.

Davidic Covenant

Fulfilled in Christ, the ultimate Davidic heir.

26 posted on 05/11/2014 5:38:31 PM PDT by Lee N. Field ("And if you are Christ's, then you are Abraham's offspring, heirs according to promise" Gal 3:29)
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To: Lee N. Field
(Ignoring for the moment that it's not a covenant in its own right, but a part of God's very different covenants with Abraham and through Moses) Romans 4:13, expanded to include the world, applied to Abraham and his seed.

Romans 4:13 has nothing to do with the land covenant...

The land covenant was given only to Jacob's seed...Not to all of the seed of Abraham...

Gen 35:10 And God said unto him, Thy name is Jacob: thy name shall not be called any more Jacob, but Israel shall be thy name: and he called his name Israel.
Gen 35:11 And God said unto him, I am God Almighty: be fruitful and multiply; a nation and a company of nations shall be of thee, and kings shall come out of thy loins;
Gen 35:12 And the land which I gave Abraham and Isaac, to thee I will give it, and to thy seed after thee will I give the land.

Gen 48:3 And Jacob said unto Joseph, God Almighty appeared unto me at Luz in the land of Canaan, and blessed me,
Gen 48:4 And said unto me, Behold, I will make thee fruitful, and multiply thee, and I will make of thee a multitude of people; and will give this land to thy seed after thee for an everlasting possession.

(Ignoring for the moment that it's not a covenant in its own right, but a part of God's very different covenants with Abraham and through Moses) Romans 4:13, expanded to include the world, applied to Abraham and his seed.

Of course it's a covenant in its own right...And not to be ignored...It's a covenant made with Jacob's seed thru Abraham...It doesn't include all of Abraham's seed...Never will...It's a land covenant that has not yet been fulfilled...

Davidic Covenant

Fulfilled in Christ, the ultimate Davidic heir.

That's absurd...Jesus never sat on the throne of David and he is not right now...Jesus is sitting on 'his Father's throne' and will not sit on the throne of David til he shows up after the Tribulation...

David's throne is a physical throne on a piece of land in Israel in a temple that has not yet been rebuilt...

Abrahamic Covenant

Fulfilled in Christ. Those who are of faith are heirs.

And unlike the land covenant, this covenant includes all the descendants of Esau and Jacob who are spiritually in Jesus; Chinese, Jewish, Arabs, Africans; Gentile and Jew alike, for the is no difference spiritually, in Jesus Christ...

Outside of Jesus Christ there is still a world of difference between Jew and Gentile, Jacob and Esau......

35 posted on 05/11/2014 9:43:33 PM PDT by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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