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the POPE doesn’t not Represent 100% of catholics when he encourages government redistribution....he is BLATANTLY POLITICAL


19 posted on 05/09/2014 2:34:13 PM PDT by Understand the stimulus
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“LEGITIMATE REDISTRIBUTION’ OF WEALTH BY THE STATE” IS AN OXIMORON.

Argentinean “pope Francis has frequently lashed out at the injustices of capitalism and the global economic system that excludes so much of humanity.”

Isn’t it a fact that the countries that exclude the capitalistic system are so poor for just that reason? Even Communist China, by embracing capitalism, is becoming an economic super power and has begun eliminating the famines and abject poverty endemic to it for centuries. The same is being seen in India, South Korea and Taiwan. 60 years ago, the last two of the aforementioned countries were poorer and had less natural resources than most of the Latin American countries, but they embraced capitalism and became a prosperous part of the first world community.

What is it that His Holiness is advocating in order to eliminate poverty in the World? Jesus Christ said that the poor will always be with us, but, Jesus was not alluding only to economic poverty, He was also referring to moral and spiritual poverty as well.

Since the beginning of his election, Pope Francis has been involved in a continuous barrage of misrepresentations and attacks against the free enterprise system, which together with political and religious freedom, are the main tenets of modern capitalism. In spite of its defects and shortcomings, no system in human history has reduced poverty more in the world and helped to raise the standards of living for Humanity as a whole, than the free enterprise capitalistic system. Thus far, I have yet to hear Pope Francis condemn the socialist regimes that continue to keep their people subjugated and in a state of misery, as is the case in Cuba and Venezuela, and these are just two of the many other well known apprentices of tyrannical socialist regimes in Latin America.

Is Pope Francis’ Peronist vision of a third way between Socialism and Capitalism the way to eliminate poverty in the world? Peronism, a populist hybrid between Socialism and Fascism reduced Argentina, a very rich country with a numerous well educated middle class, to the present waste basket state it is today.

Isn’t the so called “redistribution of wealth” one of the main tenets of the Marxist doctrine and a slogan used ad nauseam by demagogues throughout history?

As soon as he took power, Pope Francis has been trying to rescue the Marxist liberation theology from the dust bin of history where it was relegated by Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI, a movement that supported the Marxist guerrillas in Latin America and was used by the Cuban regime to expand communism in this hemisphere.

In Quod Apostolici Muneris, the great Leo XIII condemned socialism as a Satanic counterfeit of the Gospel.

As Pope Pius XI affirmed in his Encyclical letter “Divini Redemptoris on Atheistic Communism”:

58. “See to it, Venerable Brethren, that the Faithful do not allow themselves to be deceived! Communism is intrinsically wrong, and no one who would save Christian civilization may collaborate with it in any undertaking whatsoever. Those who permit themselves to be deceived into lending their aid towards the triumph of Communism in their own country, will be the first to fall victims of their error. And the greater the antiquity and grandeur of the Christian civilization in the regions where Communism successfully penetrates, so much more devastating will be the hatred displayed by the godless.”

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19031937_divini-redemptoris_en.html

By orders of Pope John Paul II, Cardinal Ratzinger, a prefect of the CONGREGATION FOR THE DOCTRINE OF THE FAITH, issued the following INSTRUCTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE “THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION” in which it was condemning the inclusion of the “class struggle” and other parts of the ideology and Marxist praxis under the Christian cover of a so called liberation theology.

http://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_con_cfaith_doc_19840806_theology-liberation_en.html

According to Cardinal Gerhard Ludwig Müller, prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Pope Francis has close ties with liberation theology, the same discaterio that once condemned the movement. In the 1980s the CDF, under then-Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, attacked liberation theology as borrowing “from various currents of Marxist thought“.

Few know that Müller is also a pupil of Gustavo Gutierrez, the “father” of Latin-American liberation theology. When Müller, the prefect for the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, affirms that “Pope Francis has close ties with liberation theology” it exposes the reason for the exaltation of Leonardo Boff and the most radical leaders of the Marxist Liberation theology with the election of Pope Francisco.

Pope Francis’ right hand, the powerful Honduran Cardinal Oscar Rodriguez Maradiaga, who was put by the Pope in charge of the reform of the Church, makes his sympathies clear when he quotes as an authority on the morality of international investment the Swiss radical Jean Ziegler – a longtime defender of Fidel Castro, who has called the United States an “imperialist dictatorship”.

Pope Francis’ opening to liberation theology is in stark contrast with the persecution to a very orthodox order, the “Franciscans of the Inmaculata”, for its adherence to the Tridentine mass and the traditional tenets and liturgy that were the orthodox standard of the Catholic Church for hundreds of years.


31 posted on 05/09/2014 3:49:01 PM PDT by Dqban22
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Didn’t you read the comment? “When is Pope Francis being misquoted? When his lips are moving.” Don’t mistake the MSM’s soundbytes for the Pope’s message.


34 posted on 05/09/2014 4:35:42 PM PDT by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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The Pope’s views on economics are his own, not official policy of the Roman Catholic Church. His views are also the same as JP2 and B16. But they didn’t go off the cuff all the time making strange comments just for the hell of it.


45 posted on 05/10/2014 10:45:43 AM PDT by NKP_Vet ("It is foolish and wrong to mourn the men who died;we should thank God that such men lived" ~ Patton)
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“Pope Francis is fond of ‘creating a mess.’ Mission accomplished,” American Bishop Thomas Tobin said.

Bishop Tobin argued against what he called the pope’s suggestion that the Church “accommodate the needs of the age.” If that happens, he wrote, “the Church risks the danger of losing its courageous, counter-cultural, prophetic voice, a voice that the world needs to hear.”

Pope John Paul II and Benedict XVI proscribed Liberation Theology as a beachhead of Marxists into the Catholic Church. As soon as Pope Francis took power, he welcomed back to the Church the leaders of the Marxist Liberation Theology. QUO O VADIS, FRANCIS?

By order of H.H. John Paul II, the Prefect of The Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Joseph Ratzinger, published on August 6, 1984, the INSTRUCTION ON CERTAIN ASPECTS OF THE "THEOLOGY OF LIBERATION" alerting the faithful about the dangers of the mixing of Marxism with the Gospels.

“The present Instruction has a much more limited and precise purpose: to draw the attention of pastors, theologians, and all the faithful to the deviations, and risks of deviation, damaging to the faith and to Christian living, that are brought about by certain forms of liberation theology which use, in an insufficiently critical manner, concepts borrowed from various currents of Marxist thought.”

The Church’s “preferential option for the poor” is incompatible with the creation of misery and the lost of liberty that is intrinsically an inseparable part of Marxist regimes.

9."Let us recall the fact that atheism and the denial of the human person, his liberty and rights, are at the core of the Marxist theory. This theory, then, contains errors which directly threaten the truths of the faith regarding the eternal destiny of individual persons. Moreover, to attempt to integrate into theology an analysis whose criterion of interpretation depends on this atheistic conception is to involve oneself in terrible contradictions. What is more, this misunderstanding of the spiritual nature of the person leads to a total subordination of the person to the collectivity, and thus to the denial of the principles of a social and political life which is in keeping with human dignity."

7. ” The warning of Paul VI remains fully valid today: Marxism as it is actually lived out poses many distinct aspects and questions for Christians to reflect upon and act on. However, it would be "illusory and dangerous to ignore the intimate bond which radically unites them, and to accept elements of the Marxist analysis without recognizing its connections with the ideology, or to enter into the practice of class-struggle and of its Marxist interpretation while failing to see the kind of totalitarian society to which this process slowly leads." [22]

When H.H. Pope Paul VI saw how Vatican II was separated from its original intend, with heartbroken words said: “It seems like smoke from Hell penetrated through the windows of the Vatican.” It seems that now the smoke from Hell entered the Church embraced to the “liberation theology.”

In the 2005 Conclave Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger was elected as Benedict XVI. During the Conclave the powerful Cardinal Martini –the “Pope of the Liberal Catholics” -tried his outmost to get elected the Argentinian Jesuit, Cardinal Bergoglio.

Cardinal Martini was for Pope Francis, what Saul Alinsky was for Obama.

http://on-this-rock.blogspot.com/2012/09/cardinal-martini-pope-of-liberal.html

Cardinal Martini of Milan was for abortion, same sex marriage, condoms in Africa, etc. In his last interview before his passing, the Cardinal famously noted that the Church is 200 years behind the times.

William Doino on First Things blog has a lovely response:

Father John Holloway said: “Cardinal Martini was vastly underestimating the situation. The Church is not 200 years out of date—it is 2,000 years out of date, and will remain so, for the eternal truths of Jesus Christ are timeless and not subject to the trends of any particular age, however “forward” it thinks it is.”

46 posted on 10/25/2014 7:54:31 PM PDT by Dqban22
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