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To: GeronL
Churches in the SBC are independent entities, the SBC does not run them

That argument doesn't hold water.

Let a SBC congregation ordain a woman and see how long they stay SBC. Let them ordain a homosexual and see how long they stay SBC.

But let them knowingly allow folks like this to move from one churhch to another and they claim "we can't control this".

Rubbish. They can and those that refuse are complicit in the crimes.

It came up at the last convention or almost. In any case there is growing support for regulating this.

Claiming "nothing we can do" in the face of this is cowardly, vile, evil and repugnant. Let their blood be on those who claim "nothing we can do".
8 posted on 05/08/2014 8:14:38 PM PDT by wonkowasright (Wonko from outside the asylum)
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To: wonkowasright; GeronL
Many of the Southern Baptist church conventions ARE doing postive things to prevent child abuse within their individual churches. One of them located in Texas, for example, is called "Child Guard Systems of Richardson, Texas". From http://www.bpnews.net/26417/sbtc-initiative-child-abuse-prevention:

    As a service provider, Child Guard will be linked from the convention's website -– www.sbtexas.com -- and recommended by the convention staff to all SBTC churches. Child Guard remains a private business but one that has been carefully examined by SBTC leaders and found to be an exemplary resource.

    The approach of the company goes beyond the standard criminal background check, although this is an important part of the process. Churches entering into an agreement with Child Guard receive a customized training and testing program for their ministries. Staff members and volunteers receive online training, testing and certification to ensure they understand appropriate procedures for maintaining the safety of the minor children under their care. A criminal background check for each staff member and volunteer is included as a crucial part of the service.

    "We looked at companies providing safety-related services to churches and found Child Guard to be the best choice for our convention," said Joe Davis, the SBTC's chief financial officer. "We strongly recommend that churches establish thorough and effective safety procedures for their own staff members and volunteers, whether they use Child Guard or not. At the very least, do a background check on everyone who works with children in your church."

    "The safety of children, that is the bottom line," Richards said. "We're trying to help as we can, but the responsibility falls on individual churches. Only they have the authority to direct their own ministries. We hope our recommendation of this service provider will encourage churches to do more to keep kids safe and their own ministries reputable."

    Although Southern Baptist churches have formed denominational entities at the local, state and national levels, the churches remain self-governing. Participation at various denominational levels is completely voluntary and the entities maintain no level of control over churches.

    The Southern Baptists of Texas Convention is a fellowship of more than 1,900 Southern Baptist churches in Texas. The convention was formed in 1998 and maintains denominational offices in Grapevine, Texas. More information is available at sbtexas.com.

Due diligence is the responsibility of those seeking pastors to shepherd their church. Also, we learn from http://www.bpnews.net/bpnews.asp?id=28232:

    The Southern Baptist Convention Executive Committee passed a recommendation June 9 urging churches to screen prospective volunteers and employees with the U.S. Department of Justice's national sex offender database and said it believes the "potential threat of sex abuse" on the local church level "is tragically underappreciated."

    At six pages, the Executive Committee's report on child sexual abuse -– adopted after two years of study -- also said it is "strongly persuaded that no church or Baptist entity should employ a known sex offender."

    Passed with only one dissenting vote, the recommendation said the Executive Committee "believes utilizing a reliable and authoritative database is an extremely important initial step of background review Southern Baptist churches should take to provide the highest degree of protection against sexual predators." The database is called the Dru Sjodin National Sex Offender database -- available at www.nsopr.gov -- and includes a list of convicted sex offenders nationwide. It is linked from the SBC's official website, www.sbc.net.

    The Executive Committee declined -– as a 2007 motion by Oklahoma pastor Wade Burleson suggested -- to establish a database of Southern Baptist offenders. The report said that, "on the surface," the idea of a Southern Baptist-run database "seems like a good idea." But the report said such a proposal raised several questions and concerns:

    -- that it would be "impossible to assure that all convicted sexual predators who ever had a connection with a Baptist church would be discoverable for inclusion on such a list."

    -- that "creating a database of 'Baptist only' convicted sexual offenders would leave out predators previously identified in other faith groups who could come in under the radar" and obtain employment at a Southern Baptist church. Sexual predators "frequently migrate" from victim to victim and job to job, the report said, and a national Southern Baptist database would not be of help for churches that hire someone from a non-SBC church.

    -- that Southern Baptists' ecclesiology –- each church is autonomous -– "precludes the Convention from having any authority to require local churches to report instances of alleged sexual abuse to their local association, their state Baptist convention, or the national Convention."

    The Dru Sjodin database, the report said, is maintained and provided by the United States Department of Justice and is "publicly accessible without charge" and "the best resource for such use."

    "Any convicted sex offender, regardless of religious affiliation, is already listed in the Department of Justice's national database of convicted sex offenders," the report said.

    It is not enough, the report said, for a church to only view a candidate's criminal history. The Dru Sjodin national database, the report said, should be employed, but a thorough background check also should be undertaken.

    "In summary, prevention of sexual abuse, and proper response when victimization occurs, are best accomplished by churches diligently utilizing procedures, information, and resources already readily available," the report said. "Churches are strongly encouraged to recognize the threat or harm as real, to avail themselves of such information, and to aggressively undertake adequate steps at the local level to prevent harm and protect victims.

    "The Executive Committee strongly encourages local congregations to devise policies and execute strategies (1) to be diligent as they choose and supervise their ministers, employees, and volunteers, (2) to be vigorous in their investigations of known or suspected sex abuse within their ranks, and (3) to be honest and forthcoming in revealing the facts to their sister congregations when asked about former ministers, employees, and volunteers."

    The report further said the Southern Baptist Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission is "fully capable of determining the proper construction, prioritization, and provision of ministry called for by sexual abuse victimization."

    The Executive Committee's Bylaws Workgroup and Administrative Subcommittee discussed the recommendation and report during their morning meetings June 9. Much of the discussion centered on whether it would be reasonable for a child sex offender -– after accepting Christ -– to be employed again in a Southern Baptist church. The workgroup and subcommittee decided it would not. There are two issues, members of the workgroup and subcommittee said: a person's salvation and a person's employment. Although the person can be forgiven for past sins, he or she should not again be placed in a position of trust.

    "God is a gracious, gracious God. God forgives. … We can restore those that do this to our fellowship [as members of the church]," workgroup chairman Stephen Wilson told EC members in presenting the report. "But … the committee felt very strongly that in terms of employment practice, this is not something that we think we ought to be doing, and that is restoring people to a leadership position after they have had this type of [incident] in their lives."

Additional articles dealing with child sex abuse prevention in the SBC are HERE

12 posted on 05/08/2014 10:16:24 PM PDT by boatbums (quod semper, quod ubique, quod ab omnibus)
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